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Peter Ceresole <peter@cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> But they will deliver your mail by SMTP, and using Addmail, for example,
> you can reject mail based on whatever criteria you choose. No connect time
> involved beyond the time needed to reject the header automatically.
> 
> Demon are absolutely right; they are an ISP for grownups and they furnish
> the means to filter mail as you wish. It isn't their job to do it for you;
> I wouldn't want them to be involved with rejecting my mail.

So you enjoy subsidizing crappy server configurations and "don't care"
attitudes on the part of *otehr* service providers?

That's nice of you, but I'd rather see my Demon fees pay for a quality
service *at Demon*.  In today's Internet, that means rejecting mail
from whole systems whose admins are so clueless as to be part of the
spam problem.  That means using services like the various MAPS lists
and/or ORBS to reject SMTP connections.  If Demon does that, it saves
itself and therefore its customers a whole raft of expenses it *and
we* do not need.

At the moment, Demon is a significant contributor to the spam problem.
Given its sheer size, it would only take a couple of service providers
like Demon to enforce MAPS/ORBS type rejection of Email and the large
service providers who not only service spammers but also many, many
"real clients" (the uu.nets of this world) will have to do something
more to prevent their end of the problem.  As for the spam-havens --
I don't give a flying fig what happens to them as implementing this
kind of active blocking means that Demon will save me from having to
worry about the fact they even exist.

Imagine if someone sent you 20 postal mails a day without ever affixing
a stamp to any of them.  After a few days to weeks of you complaining
to the Royal Post that you were clearly being targetted by a malicious
person and you refused delivery and payment of the missing postage
fees, do you think the Royal POst would stop delivering those letters?
(And maybe even try to track down and prosecute the sender?)

Of course they would...

Well, right now, Demon is playing the role as if the right thing to do
is to keep delivering those messages and charging you for the privilege.

(Yes, I know it's not a perfect analogy, but I think it is close
enough...)

Maybe Peter Ceresole is happy about that, but I certainly am not.  If
you want Demon to do something about this, CC your spam complaints to
abuse@demon... if they are cases of relay spamming and express your
concern at Demon's continued inaction in its not implementing relay
blocking.


-- 
Nick FitzGerald