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You guys have *got* to read these...

Post after post of "report it to the police" pleas from the luser
netKKKops in the uk.comp.sys.mac newsgroup.


From: "macfizz@gmail.com" <macfizz@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1147948656.971523.239430@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

>I think I would like to get the police involved in this sick campaign
>being run by "Chris Holland" (and his various sock puppets). I would
>have thought that the latest round of stuff from him is a clear and
>actionable incitement to violence against gays and lord knows there
>have been plenty of mealy-mouthed "I'm not against them but..."
>postings. There are some other script kiddies lurking but "Chris"
>represents the vast majority of postings, I think.
>
>So... does anyone know the right place to point a formal complaint (not
>the useless Google police, BTW - tried them already)? If we made a
>concerted and formal effort maybe we could get this malign piece of
>pond-life dealt with properly under the law. I'm definitely ready to go
>for it.

From: "Pip" <Pipuk982@yahoo.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1147937812.640974.245620@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>

>Writing that on a public forum is a criminal offence.
>
>Sections 4 or 5 of the Public Order Act 1986, the common law offence of
>incitement to violence and murder, or under Section 4 of the Offences
>Against The Person Act 1861
>
>Not only is it an incitement to violence but the penalties will be even
>greater because it is classed as a hate crime:-
>The Association of Chief Police Officers (ACPO) defines hate crime as
>"a crime where the perpetrator's prejudice against any identifiable
>group of people is a factor in determining who is victimised".
>
>The police have been informed.
>Let's hope they track you down & deal with you soon.
>Of course we all know from your style & content you are Chris Holland,
>and the police have had lots of practice tracking terrorists hiding
>behind aliases on computers so they won't have much trouble with you .
>
>Pip

From: "Pip" <Pipuk982@yahoo.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1147944124.973053.101760@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

>There are lots of accusations about lots of people doing lots of
>things, but that doesn't mean they are facts.  The policemen I
>know (and I'm friends with a few) are accepting of minorities, but
>even if they were not, there is a very strongly enforced official
>policy on pursuit and prosecution of possible hate-crimes.
>Haven't you heard about the shop keeper who was called from
>home to his shop on a Sunday and warned by police that the
>golliwogs displayed in the shop window might me considered racist?
>That was obviously silly, but it shows how seriously the police take
>these matters.
>
>Some facts:
>
>Police warned the concert venues, the White Pearl Club in
>Birmingham, and the Stratford Rex in London, that they may be
>guilty of aiding and abetting criminal offences if Bounty Killer
>performed his hit songs calling for gay people to be burned, drowned,
>stoned, wiped out and murdered.
>
>Also...
>Three top Jamaican reggae artists whose songs advocate the
>murder of gay people are committing a crime, and people who
>promote and distribute their songs are aiding and abetting criminal
>offences.  This is the conclusion of Detective Chief Inspector Clive
>Driscoll of the Diversity Directorate at New Scotland Yard.
>The three singers under investigation are Elephant Man, Bounty
>Killer and Beenie Man. Their songs variously urge the shooting,
>burning and drowning of gay people. .
>
>Action may be taken against not only the singers and their record
>companies, but also against high street record stores HMV and
>Virgin, BBC Radio 1Xtra, and the BBC and Amazon websites.
>Driscoll says they are distributing and promoting CDs inciting
>homophobic violence and murder. Charges could be bought in
>Britain under the Public Order Act 1986, the common law offences
>of incitement and conspiracy to murder, and under the solicitation
>to murder clause of the Offences Against The Person Act 1861.
>
>There are lots of other examples - but you're not worth the effort.
>Don't think your Google posting gives you enough anonymity to
>protect you. The police are experienced at tracking down those
>who peddle kiddie-pron and other trash like you. (yes, I put you
>in the same category as them!)
>
>> There should be a holocaust of all gay people - genocide - pure and
>> simple. They should all be shot in the head. FUCKING KILL FAGS!!!!!!!
>
>Yet more evidence against you... Keep digging!
>Get ready for the knock on your door!
>
>Pip

From: "Jack Campin" <temp@purr.demon.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1147972547.624358.282010@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>

>Just print off a bunch of his posts (with full headers) and send them
>to your local police force.  Most police forces have a unit whose
>remit covers hate crime like this.
>
>Quicker if somebody in England does it, since that's where his ISP is
>abnd it'll be faster to get a warrant to compel his ISP to hand over
>the details without getting into cross-border issues.

From: Bonge Boo! <bingbong@spamcop.net>
Message-ID: <C0927AB0.20AFA%bingbong@spamcop.net>

>Give him a month to sort himself out. Then we'll do the tedious getting the
>law involved stuff.

From: "Pip" <Pipuk982@yahoo.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1147992184.028522.244290@g10g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>

>You don't know much about UK law do you?
>Incitement to murder is a serious crime.
>Anyone can report a crime.
>
>If you don't report a crime and the perpetrator goes on to harm others
>then you must bear some moral responsibility.
>
>Pip

From: "Pip" <Pipuk982@yahoo.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1147956840.841072.229180@j73g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>

>The Met have more resources to track him down, so they are
>the best ones to approach.  It might help if the person contacting
>them lived in the Met area. Incitement to violence and murder is
>a criminal offence and is made more serious if it is a hate crime.
>He is not just a nuisance but potentially dangerous because he
>may one day actually do what he advocates and his posts may
>encourage others to believe it is OK to act out their own fantasies
>of violence toward homosexuals.
>
>Also, if you have quotes of his earlier racist posts as well as the
>ones inciting violence against homosexuals then you should
>include them in your complaint.  That way it will be certain to get
>a response as the police have standing orders that they must report
>all racially-motivated hate crimes.  I'm not sure if that order applies
>
>to his antigay crimes, though the Met have proved to be very active
>recently in following up reports of incitement to commit violence
>against homosexuals.
>
>Perhaps in the first instance the person d to contact at the Met
>would be Chief SuperIntendent Glen Allison - Head of Diversity
>Strategy and Co-ordination.
>
>Pip

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