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On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:48:14 +0100, "john east" <ponyo@mail.invalid>
wrote:

>Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather trusting by 
>nature and also absent minded; i can just see it *walking-off* in no time at 
>all, especially at the coffe shop.
>
>One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious answer, 
>but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable to.   Any other 
>suggestions please ? 

"steel cables" aka a Kensington lock...as secure as a piece of
cardboard

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIQIJpOhV4c


-- 

john east wrote:
> Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather
> trusting by nature and also absent minded; i can just see it
> *walking-off* in no time at all, especially at the coffe shop.
>
> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious
> answer, but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable
> to.   Any other suggestions please ?

Maybe something like this?
http://www.szprice.com/products/Wireless-Electronic-Anti-Loss-Anti-Theft-Alarm-Keychain_2234.html

john east wrote:
> Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather
> trusting by nature and also absent minded; i can just see it
> *walking-off* in no time at all, especially at the coffe shop.
>
> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious
> answer, but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable
> to.   Any other suggestions please ?

Laptops are so emminently stealable that your best (and only) security is 
vigilence.  If the "someone" paid for it with their own money I would 
suggest that after it's been stolen they might well be slightly less 
trusting and absent minded.


Tim 

On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:55:12 +0100
The Other Mike <rootpassword@somewhereorother.com> wrote:

> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 10:48:14 +0100, "john east" <ponyo@mail.invalid>
> wrote:
> 
> >Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather
> >trusting by nature and also absent minded; i can just see it
> >*walking-off* in no time at all, especially at the coffe shop.
> >
> >One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious
> >answer, but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable
> >to.   Any other suggestions please ? 
> 
> "steel cables" aka a Kensington lock...as secure as a piece of
> cardboard
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIQIJpOhV4c
> 
> 

A colleague at work had his Kensington-secured laptop stolen. They
just cut the cable with wire-cutters and left it dangling there.
-- 
Davey.

In message <jn8jvf$cj3$1@dont-email.me>, Tim Downie 
<timdownie2003@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>john east wrote:
>> Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather
>> trusting by nature and also absent minded; i can just see it
>> *walking-off* in no time at all, especially at the coffe shop.
>>
>> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious
>> answer, but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable
>> to.   Any other suggestions please ?
>
>Laptops are so emminently stealable that your best (and only) security 
>is vigilence.  If the "someone" paid for it with their own money I 
>would suggest that after it's been stolen they might well be slightly 
>less trusting and absent minded.

I don't have one:-)

However, with the built in battery and speaker and perhaps a mercury 
tilt switch, an audible *movement alarm* should not be beyond the brains 
of this group.

regards

-- 
Tim Lamb

Tim Lamb wrote:
> In message <jn8jvf$cj3$1@dont-email.me>, Tim Downie
> <timdownie2003@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>> john east wrote:
>>> Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather
>>> trusting by nature and also absent minded; i can just see it
>>> *walking-off* in no time at all, especially at the coffe shop.
>>>
>>> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious
>>> answer, but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable
>>> to.   Any other suggestions please ?
>>
>> Laptops are so emminently stealable that your best (and only)
>> security is vigilence.  If the "someone" paid for it with their own
>> money I would suggest that after it's been stolen they might well be
>> slightly less trusting and absent minded.
>
> I don't have one:-)
>
> However, with the built in battery and speaker and perhaps a mercury
> tilt switch, an audible *movement alarm* should not be beyond the
> brains of this group.

It would need to be armed and disarmed and someone absent minded probably 
isn't going to remember to do that.  Even if they *are* reminded by the 
thing going off then their trusting nature will ensure that they don't 
bother arming it in the first place.

I found from experience with my children at least, if you want them to look 
after something, make them buy it themselves.  Mobile phones & laptops 
gifted to them will have a very short life otherwise.

Tim
>
> regards 

On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:34:21 +0100, "Tim Downie"
<timdownie2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>john east wrote:
>> Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather
>> trusting by nature and also absent minded; i can just see it
>> *walking-off* in no time at all, especially at the coffe shop.
>>
>> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious
>> answer, but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable
>> to.   Any other suggestions please ?
>
>Laptops are so emminently stealable that your best (and only) security is 
>vigilence.  If the "someone" paid for it with their own money I would 
>suggest that after it's been stolen they might well be slightly less 
>trusting and absent minded.

Fit a cheap lithium battery from a Chinese seller on Ebay.  Then when
the laptop gets stolen it burns their house down.

-- 

On 25/04/2012 10:48, john east wrote:
> Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather trusting by
> nature and also absent minded; i can just see it *walking-off* in no time at
> all, especially at the coffe shop.
>
> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious answer,
> but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable to.   Any other
> suggestions please ?

There is malware (aka security software) that does an ET phone home 
action when the stolen PC is next connected to the internet.

The steel cable only really works to stop opportunist thieves of the 
sort that got our technical directors PC - smash and grab through an 
external ground floor window. It wasn't chained down so that was it.

The laptop can still end up knackered even with a Kensington lock as the 
thief will give it a damn good pull and then drop it before running off. 
Had this happen once in a front office in Belgium - someone came in off 
the street distracted the secretary and then tried to run off with her 
laptop. It didn't bounce particularly well :(

-- 
Regards,
Martin Brown

On Apr 25, 10:48 am, "john east" <po...@mail.invalid> wrote:
> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious answer,
> but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable to.   Any other
> suggestions please ?

Sadly, no use.

The best solution is to buy a cheap second hand ex-lease laptop if you
do not need the latest & greatest Apple.
- An example would be a Thinkpad X60 or X61 or T61 or T400 or T500
with fingerprint reader.
- Second hand prices are X60 £150, X61 £165, T61 £189, T400 £240, T500
£299 (from some online shopping TV channel).
- Avoid any Thinkpad with ATI or nVidia and go with Intel onboard
graphics - reason being solder/chip problems which a BGA solder reflow
only temporarily fixes.

Fingerprint Readers, BIOS & hard drive password security on Thinkpads
tends to make them a little less disposable (can still be stripped for
parts). I recall some Dell have similar, but transferring the warranty
on a Dell is usually impossible - whereas any factory warranty on a
Thinkpad is with the machine.

Likewise fitting an obviously non-UK keyboard, makes it visually less
appealing.

Laptops with onboard camera can have a photo & phone home software app
BTW, a better solution if you have an £800-1700 Apple.

On 25/04/2012 10:55, Richard wrote:
> john east wrote:
>> Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather
>> trusting by nature and also absent minded; i can just see it
>> *walking-off* in no time at all, especially at the coffe shop.
>>
>> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious
>> answer, but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable
>> to.   Any other suggestions please ?
>
> Maybe something like this?
> http://www.szprice.com/products/Wireless-Electronic-Anti-Loss-Anti-Theft-Alarm-Keychain_2234.html
>
>

ROFL! Completely and utterly useless.

Unclip device. Walk away with laptop.

Thanks for reminding Usenet why taking advice about computing from you 
is pointless.

On 25/04/2012 10:48, john east wrote:
> Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather trusting by
> nature and also absent minded; i can just see it *walking-off* in no time at
> all, especially at the coffe shop.
>
> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious answer,
> but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable to.   Any other
> suggestions please ?
>

Suggest fingerprint scanner for login, Dropbox for data synchronisation 
(don't keep data ONLY on the machine), and tracking software like 
preyproject (http://preyproject.com/). Get it securely marked with 
SmartWater, and visibly label accordingly.

As an above paranonia, go for whole hard drive encryption and implement 
both hard drive and bios passwords. Encorage network application access 
via VPN.

Steel cable is good. Accompany the laptop with a ferocious dog* and 
attach it to that, when away from the table.

* - microchipped, of course...

-- 
Adrian C

On 25/04/2012 14:34, Evan Platt wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:32:11 +0100, Adrian C<email@here.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>> Suggest fingerprint scanner for login, Dropbox for data synchronisation
>> (don't keep data ONLY on the machine), and tracking software like
>> preyproject (http://preyproject.com/). Get it securely marked with
>> SmartWater, and visibly label accordingly.
>>
>> As an above paranonia, go for whole hard drive encryption and implement
>> both hard drive and bios passwords. Encorage network application access
>> via VPN.
>>
>> Steel cable is good. Accompany the laptop with a ferocious dog* and
>> attach it to that, when away from the table.
>
> All suggestions are great, but none will prevent the laptop from
> growing legs and being stolen.

Then use your imagination. Paint it with a material that looks like 
someone has just thrown up on it.

It's not only growing legs that is the problem. Mugging is a problem as 
well. In both cases the crime does not stop there, hence the advice.

I'm pretty discrete carrying around technology for work, I don't have a 
dog however.

-- 
Adrian C

john east wrote:
> Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather trusting by 
> nature and also absent minded; i can just see it *walking-off* in no time at 
> all, especially at the coffe shop.
> 
> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious answer, 
> but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable to.   Any other 
> suggestions please ? 
> 
> 
Easy peasy; replace the 2nd battery with C4 and set the lappy to ignite 
it after the screen saver with password has a 3rd failed login attempt.

HAND

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Richard wrote:
> john east wrote:
>> Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather
>> trusting by nature and also absent minded; i can just see it
>> *walking-off* in no time at all, especially at the coffe shop.
>>
>> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious
>> answer, but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable
>> to.   Any other suggestions please ?
>
> Maybe something like this?
>
http://www.szprice.com/products/Wireless-Electronic-Anti-Loss-Anti-Theft-Alarm-Keychain_2234.html

I think the above would be great for a reminder that you just left it and
started walking away.
Buffalo

Buffalo wrote:
> Richard wrote:
>> john east wrote:
>>> Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather
>>> trusting by nature and also absent minded; i can just see it
>>> *walking-off* in no time at all, especially at the coffe shop.
>>>
>>> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious
>>> answer, but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable
>>> to.   Any other suggestions please ?
>> Maybe something like this?
>>
> http://www.szprice.com/products/Wireless-Electronic-Anti-Loss-Anti-Theft-Alarm-Keychain_2234.html
> 
> I think the above would be great for a reminder that you just left it and
> started walking away.

Give it to your girlfriend. That behaviour (a reminder that you just 
left it and started walking away) is hardwired into the BIOS.

> Buffalo
> 
> 


-- 
To people who know nothing, anything is possible.
To people who know too much, it is a sad fact
that they know how little is really possible -
and how hard it is to achieve it.

Desk Rabbit wrote:
> On 25/04/2012 10:55, Richard wrote:
>> john east wrote:
>>> Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather
>>> trusting by nature and also absent minded; i can just see it
>>> *walking-off* in no time at all, especially at the coffe shop.
>>>
>>> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious
>>> answer, but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable
>>> to.   Any other suggestions please ?
>>
>> Maybe something like this?
>> http://www.szprice.com/products/Wireless-Electronic-Anti-Loss-Anti-Theft-Alarm-Keychain_2234.html
>>
>>
>
> ROFL! Completely and utterly useless.
>
> Unclip device. Walk away with laptop.
>
> Thanks for reminding Usenet why taking advice about computing from you
> is pointless.

Oh dear.
I could of course have a rant about your reply and apparent lack of 
comprehension, but I won't. Had you bothered to assimilate the information 
provided in the sentence "Maybe something like this?" you might have been 
able to understand that 'something like' means something similar to, but not 
exactly 'this'.
Carry on ROFL, at least you're cleaning the floor rather than being 
absolutely useless.

Look up the "Prey Project".  Won't stop it getting stolen but you might get 
it back.

Paul DS

"john east" <ponyo@mail.invalid> wrote in message 
news:jn8h92$u64$1@dont-email.me...
> Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather trusting by 
> nature and also absent minded; i can just see it *walking-off* in no time 
> at all, especially at the coffe shop.
>
> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious 
> answer, but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable to. 
> Any other suggestions please ?
> 

Parko wrote:
> Welding the lappy to a 1/2 inch thick steel plate should do the trick.
> Then chain it to yer mate's leg.

I was going to suggest attaching it to his genitals ;)

JGH

On Apr 25, 5:45 pm, jgharston  wrote:
> Parko wrote:
> > Welding the lappy to a 1/2 inch thick steel plate should do the trick.
> > Then chain it to yer mate's leg.
>
> I was going to suggest attaching it to his genitals ;)


would have to be a very good mate!

Owain

"Tim Lamb" <tim@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:JTO8BkGlg9lPFw+q@marfordfarm.demon.co.uk...
> In message <jn8jvf$cj3$1@dont-email.me>, Tim Downie 
> <timdownie2003@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>john east wrote:
>>> Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather
>>> trusting by nature and also absent minded; i can just see it
>>> *walking-off* in no time at all, especially at the coffe shop.
>>>
>>> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious
>>> answer, but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable
>>> to.   Any other suggestions please ?
>>
>>Laptops are so emminently stealable that your best (and only) security is 
>>vigilence.  If the "someone" paid for it with their own money I would 
>>suggest that after it's been stolen they might well be slightly less 
>>trusting and absent minded.
>
> I don't have one:-)
>
> However, with the built in battery and speaker and perhaps a mercury tilt 
> switch, an audible *movement alarm* should not be beyond the brains of 
> this group.

Even better with an RFID surgically implanted in the owner and the system
designed to howl at the top of its lungs if gets touched by other than the 
owner. 

"Tim Downie" <timdownie2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:jn8nd1$uak$1@dont-email.me...
> Tim Lamb wrote:
>> In message <jn8jvf$cj3$1@dont-email.me>, Tim Downie
>> <timdownie2003@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>>> john east wrote:
>>>> Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather
>>>> trusting by nature and also absent minded; i can just see it
>>>> *walking-off* in no time at all, especially at the coffe shop.
>>>>
>>>> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious
>>>> answer, but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable
>>>> to.   Any other suggestions please ?
>>>
>>> Laptops are so emminently stealable that your best (and only)
>>> security is vigilence.  If the "someone" paid for it with their own
>>> money I would suggest that after it's been stolen they might well be
>>> slightly less trusting and absent minded.
>>
>> I don't have one:-)
>>
>> However, with the built in battery and speaker and perhaps a mercury
>> tilt switch, an audible *movement alarm* should not be beyond the
>> brains of this group.

> It would need to be armed and disarmed and someone absent minded probably 
> isn't going to remember to do that.

Sure, but an occasional false alarm is just a nuisance,
particularly if it starts shrieking with a quiet warning
beep with time to disarm it before it really starts howling.

And with an auto arm on the lack of activity for a while.

> Even if they *are* reminded by the thing going off then their trusting 
> nature will ensure that they don't bother arming it in the first place.

Easily fixed by an auto arm on a lack of activity so they cant not bother.

> I found from experience with my children at least, if you want them to 
> look after something, make them buy it themselves.

Doesn�t work so well with adults and laptops and isnt even
possible with work laptops anyway.

> Mobile phones & laptops gifted to them will have a very short life 
> otherwise.

Sure, but adults work differently on that stuff. 

js.b1 <js.b1@ntlworld.com> wrote
> john east <po...@mail.invalid> wrote

>> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems
>> an obvious answer, but there is not always somewhere handy
>> to connect the cable to.   Any other suggestions please ?

> Sadly, no use.

That's not right with the ones with a decent high security lock.

> The best solution is to buy a cheap second hand ex-lease
> laptop if you do not need the latest & greatest Apple.

Nope, a much better solution is to make it much harder to steal
with a decent high security cable lock and a decent audio alarm
if someone other than the owner tries to make off with it.

> - An example would be a Thinkpad X60 or X61 or T61 or T400 or T500
> with fingerprint reader.
> - Second hand prices are X60 �150, X61 �165, T61 �189, T400 �240, T500
> �299 (from some online shopping TV channel).
> - Avoid any Thinkpad with ATI or nVidia and go with Intel onboard
> graphics - reason being solder/chip problems which a BGA solder reflow
> only temporarily fixes.

> Fingerprint Readers, BIOS & hard drive password security on Thinkpads
> tends to make them a little less disposable (can still be stripped for
> parts). I recall some Dell have similar, but transferring the warranty
> on a Dell is usually impossible - whereas any factory warranty on a
> Thinkpad is with the machine.

> Likewise fitting an obviously non-UK keyboard, makes it visually less 
> appealing.

The thief wont necessarily notice that before he's grabbed it tho.

> Laptops with onboard camera can have a photo & phone home software app 
> BTW,

But have fun finding anyone who can pick who the thief is from the photo.

> a better solution if you have an �800-1700 Apple.

Nope, its better to go the cable and audio alarm route and have that 
software too. 

"Evan Platt" <evan@theobvious.espphotography.com.invalid> wrote in message 
news:dbvfp7p3c2ekco6hcd88jk4i10n0f9r1kp@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:32:11 +0100, Adrian C <email@here.invalid>
> wrote:
>
>>Suggest fingerprint scanner for login, Dropbox for data synchronisation
>>(don't keep data ONLY on the machine), and tracking software like
>>preyproject (http://preyproject.com/). Get it securely marked with
>>SmartWater, and visibly label accordingly.
>>
>>As an above paranonia, go for whole hard drive encryption and implement
>>both hard drive and bios passwords. Encorage network application access
>>via VPN.
>>
>>Steel cable is good. Accompany the laptop with a ferocious dog* and
>>attach it to that, when away from the table.
>
> All suggestions are great, but none will prevent the laptop from
> growing legs and being stolen.

The cable and dog does. 

"Adrian C" <email@here.invalid> wrote in message 
news:9vqe6cF5adU1@mid.individual.net...
> On 25/04/2012 14:34, Evan Platt wrote:
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:32:11 +0100, Adrian C<email@here.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Suggest fingerprint scanner for login, Dropbox for data synchronisation
>>> (don't keep data ONLY on the machine), and tracking software like
>>> preyproject (http://preyproject.com/). Get it securely marked with
>>> SmartWater, and visibly label accordingly.
>>>
>>> As an above paranonia, go for whole hard drive encryption and implement
>>> both hard drive and bios passwords. Encorage network application access
>>> via VPN.
>>>
>>> Steel cable is good. Accompany the laptop with a ferocious dog* and
>>> attach it to that, when away from the table.
>>
>> All suggestions are great, but none will prevent the laptop from
>> growing legs and being stolen.
>
> Then use your imagination. Paint it with a material that looks like 
> someone has just thrown up on it.
>
> It's not only growing legs that is the problem. Mugging is a problem as 
> well. In both cases the crime does not stop there, hence the advice.
>
> I'm pretty discrete carrying around technology for work,

Not really  feasible if you want to use it in the coffee shop etc tho.

> I don't have a dog however.

That's certainly going to work if it's a fucking great ferocious dog.

Corse that may not go down too well in the coffee shop.

Mine always felt he could help himself to what anyone
was eating except me. That might not go down too well
in the coffee shop either. 

G. Morgan <sealteam6@osama-is-dead.net> wrote 
> Adrian C wrote

>> Steel cable is good. 
 
> No match against my Klein linesman pliers.

You can get hardened cable that will fuck those. 
 
>> Accompany the laptop with a ferocious dog* 
>> and attach it to that, when away from the table.

Which will prevent you from using your pliers on even
a standard cable. 

>>* - microchipped, of course...
 
> Of course!
 

"Tim Streater" <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote in message 
news:timstreater-1A109D.15225925042012@news.individual.net...
> In article <dbvfp7p3c2ekco6hcd88jk4i10n0f9r1kp@4ax.com>,
> Evan Platt <evan@theobvious.espphotography.com.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 14:32:11 +0100, Adrian C <email@here.invalid>
>> wrote:
>>
>> >Suggest fingerprint scanner for login, Dropbox for data synchronisation 
>> >(don't keep data ONLY on the machine), and tracking software like 
>> >preyproject (http://preyproject.com/). Get it securely marked with 
>> >SmartWater, and visibly label accordingly.
>> >
>> >As an above paranonia, go for whole hard drive encryption and implement 
>> >both hard drive and bios passwords. Encorage network application access 
>> >via VPN.
>> >
>> >Steel cable is good. Accompany the laptop with a ferocious dog* and 
>> >attach it to that, when away from the table.
>>
>> All suggestions are great, but none will prevent the laptop from
>> growing legs and being stolen.
>
> Some people are congenitally hopeless. My SiL takes CDs off the deck and 
> just puts them in the nearest empty CD case - so you can never find any CD 
> you want to play. A woman I was speaking to at lunch was heating some wax 
> on the stove to use while tie-dying, went upstairs and forgot about the 
> wax. Result: BOOM!
>
> The above are examples of the lesser- and greater-trouble you can get into 
> if you are a flake of one sort or another. I don't know what to do about 
> it,

In some cases you can make it harder to fuck up or make the
consequences not so serious when the worst flakes fuck up.

> as such people are *immune* to injections of common-sense.

Sure, and we are also seeing more and more end up with various
levels of forgetfulness and even a severe fading of their mental
capacity as they age too. Apparently there are some people that
just cant comprehend switches that you push to turn off and push
to turn on. 

"Tim Streater" <timstreater@greenbee.net> wrote in message 
news:timstreater-FC6900.15243725042012@news.individual.net...
> In article <jn8nd1$uak$1@dont-email.me>,
> "Tim Downie" <timdownie2003@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> Tim Lamb wrote:
>> > In message <jn8jvf$cj3$1@dont-email.me>, Tim Downie
>> > <timdownie2003@yahoo.co.uk> writes
>> >> john east wrote:
>> >>> Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather
>> >>> trusting by nature and also absent minded; i can just see it
>> >>> *walking-off* in no time at all, especially at the coffe shop.
>> >>>
>> >>> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious
>> >>> answer, but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable
>> >>> to.   Any other suggestions please ?
>> >>
>> >> Laptops are so emminently stealable that your best (and only)
>> >> security is vigilence.  If the "someone" paid for it with their own
>> >> money I would suggest that after it's been stolen they might well be
>> >> slightly less trusting and absent minded.
>> >
>> > I don't have one:-)
>> >
>> > However, with the built in battery and speaker and perhaps a mercury
>> > tilt switch, an audible *movement alarm* should not be beyond the
>> > brains of this group.
>>
>> It would need to be armed and disarmed and someone absent minded probably 
>> isn't going to remember to do that.  Even if they *are* reminded by the 
>> thing going off then their trusting nature will ensure that they don't 
>> bother arming it in the first place.
>>
>> I found from experience with my children at least, if you want them to 
>> look after something, make them buy it themselves.  Mobile phones & 
>> laptops gifted to them will have a very short life otherwise.
>
> Best advice so far.

Nope, that individual appears to have bought it themselves. 

"jgharston" <jgh@arcade.demon.co.uk> wrote in message 
news:c0cc5d24-9bc7-444f-a645-04bbbf236248@i2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
> Parko wrote:
>> Welding the lappy to a 1/2 inch thick steel plate should do the trick.
>> Then chain it to yer mate's leg.
>
> I was going to suggest attaching it to his genitals ;)

Phil the Greek should be able to help with that, he's allegedly into that 
sort of thing. 

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:06:29 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

> "jgharston" <jgh@arcade.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:c0cc5d24-9bc7-444f-a645-04bbbf236248@i2g2000vbd.googlegroups.com...
>> Parko wrote:
>>> Welding the lappy to a 1/2 inch thick steel plate should do the trick.
>>> Then chain it to yer mate's leg.
>>
>> I was going to suggest attaching it to his genitals ;)
> 
> Phil the Greek should be able to help with that, he's allegedly into
> that sort of thing.

Him and Prince Albert, eh?



-- 
"Any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved 
in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom 
the bell tolls; it tolls for thee".
-John Donne (1572-1631)

Aardvark <aardvark@aardvark.uk.tc> wrote 
> Rod Speed wrote
>> jgharston <jgh@arcade.demon.co.uk> wrote 
>>> Parko wrote

>>>> Welding the lappy to a 1/2 inch thick steel plate should do the trick.
>>>> Then chain it to yer mate's leg.

>>> I was going to suggest attaching it to his genitals ;)
 
>> Phil the Greek should be able to help with that, 
>> he's allegedly into that sort of thing.
 
> Him and Prince Albert, eh?

Yep. 

Better be quick tho, I doubt Phil will be around for much longer. 

Liz should well outlast him, like Vicky with with Alberty. 

Wonder if Liz will have it off with the gardener too ? 

On 25/04/2012 16:42, Richard wrote:
> Desk Rabbit wrote:
>> On 25/04/2012 10:55, Richard wrote:
>>> john east wrote:
>>>> Someone has just had to buy a new laptop, but they are rather
>>>> trusting by nature and also absent minded; i can just see it
>>>> *walking-off* in no time at all, especially at the coffe shop.
>>>>
>>>> One of those steel cables that lock into the laptop seems an obvious
>>>> answer, but there is not always somewhere handy to connect the cable
>>>> to.   Any other suggestions please ?
>>>
>>> Maybe something like this?
>>> http://www.szprice.com/products/Wireless-Electronic-Anti-Loss-Anti-Theft-Alarm-Keychain_2234.html
>>>
>>>
>>
>> ROFL! Completely and utterly useless.
>>
>> Unclip device. Walk away with laptop.
>>
>> Thanks for reminding Usenet why taking advice about computing from you
>> is pointless.
>
> Oh dear.
> I could of course have a rant about your reply and apparent lack of
> comprehension, but I won't. Had you bothered to assimilate the information
> provided in the sentence "Maybe something like this?" you might have been
> able to understand that 'something like' means something similar to, but not
> exactly 'this'.
> Carry on ROFL, at least you're cleaning the floor rather than being
> absolutely useless.
>
>
Nice backpedal. Let me know when your using that device in the cafe, I 
could do with another laptop.

On 25/04/2012 14:18, Evan Platt wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:42:19 +0100, Desk Rabbit<me@example.com>
> wrote:
>
>> ROFL! Completely and utterly useless.
>>
>> Unclip device. Walk away with laptop.
>>
>> Thanks for reminding Usenet why taking advice about computing from you
>> is pointless.
>
> Wrong richard :)

Similar type of advice though ;-)