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Article #83Re: Pi day
From: Kathrin Paschen
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 00:00
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 1997 00:00
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Mark Gibson (mgibson@vcn.bc.ca) wrote: : Incidentelly I'm sure it must have ocurred to someone that there are : DEGREES of irrationality among the irrational numbers. For axample some : irrational numbers when subjected to a simple operation can be mapped to a : rational number. e.g. sqrt(2)*sqrt(2) = 2. Whilst as far as I know e*e and : pi*pi, e*pi, etc are still irrational. Since this ocurred to a : mathematical dunce like me it can't be that important but I though it was : interesting, so there. That's because pi and e are transcendental, while sqrt(2) is algebraic. Transcendental numbers cannot solve a rational polynomial (they cannot be 'mapped to a rational number' the way you did with sqrt(2)). All rational numbers are algebraic, but not all irrational ones are. It's a very fascinating subject :).
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f458d,30fff994c7ddd7d9 X-Google-Attributes: gidf458d,public X-Google-Thread: 1130d6,30fff994c7ddd7d9 X-Google-Attributes: gid1130d6,public X-Google-Thread: 1077c2,30fff994c7ddd7d9 X-Google-Attributes: gid1077c2,public X-Google-Thread: 10d67e,30fff994c7ddd7d9 X-Google-Attributes: gid10d67e,public X-Google-Thread: f7972,30fff994c7ddd7d9 X-Google-Attributes: gidf7972,public X-Google-Thread: 109d8a,30fff994c7ddd7d9 X-Google-Attributes: gid109d8a,public From: s_pasche@ira.uka.de (Kathrin Paschen) Subject: Re: Pi day Date: 1997/03/21 Message-ID: <5gv4kf$r25$1@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> X-Deja-AN: 227389025 Distribution: world References: <8WRuzAAXBILzEwKP@ward-hull.demon.co.uk> <5gmqsn$bs8@milo.vcn.bc.ca> Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany Newsgroups: uk.education.maths,alt.uu.math.misc,aus.mathematics,can.schoolnet.math.sr,alt.math.recreational,sci.math