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Article #14Re: Wind Farms: Do they kill birds?
From: Ron House
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:01
Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:01
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Malcolm wrote: > > In article <4AB2DB72.9070702@smartchat.net.au>, Ron House > <rhouse@smartchat.net.au> writes >> Malcolm wrote: >> >>> Where in that report, which is a sober, scientific study of the >>> subject, does it say that "millions of birds are killed by wind >>> farms" as you stated in your original post? >> >> I quoted their estimates of kills per turbine, I calculated an >> estimated number of turbines by multiplying the stated total capacity >> by the capacity of a typical turbine as located on the GE turbine >> manufacturer's website. I stated that this was just an estimate. If it >> is out by even 10%, it is up to you to tell us why a simple >> multiplication gives such a wrong number. Then I multiplied that >> turbine estimate by the kills per turbine. >> > Kill and capacity are not related. Capacity of the entire EU divided by capacity of a typical turbine gives an estimate of total number of turbines. Not exact, because we don't know exactly how many of which types of turbine are installed, but it is certainly a good estimate. Multiply that number by the estimated kills per turbine and you have an estimate of total kills. And by using figures from a recognised authority with a stake in underestimating the total, we can be reasonably sure we have not overestimated by much; more likely we are greatly under. It's not rocket science. My original article here: http://peacelegacy.org/articles/wind-farms-do-they-kill-birds The question is, why cannot you and those like you understand such a simple argument? What motivates such a bizarre statement as "Kill and capacity are not related"? Two different things are related when a valid argument relates them, and my argument clearly does so. I have discussed the kind of psychological malfunction displayed by global warming believers here: http://peacelegacy.org/articles/climate-change-understanding-evil-religion -- Ron House Building Peace: http://peacelegacy.org Australian Birds: http://wingedhearts.org Principle of Goodness academic site: http://principleofgoodness.net
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X-Google-Thread: 5ce7ee3bdb,707903dbea55919b X-Google-Attributes: gid5ce7ee3bdb,public,usenet X-Google-NewGroupId: yes X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!g2news2.google.com!news4.google.com!feeder3.cambriumusenet.nl!feed.tweaknews.nl!195.208.113.1.MISMATCH!goblin3!goblin.stu.neva.ru!exi-transit.telstra.net!exi-spool.telstra.net!pit-in1.telstra.net!news.telstra.net!news-south.connect.com.au!not-for-mail From: Ron House <rhouse@smartchat.net.au> Newsgroups: uk.environment.conservation,sci.environment,aus.environment.conservation,aus.environment.misc Subject: Re: Wind Farms: Do they kill birds? Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 10:01:42 +1000 Organization: Customer of AAPT Pty Ltd Lines: 46 Message-ID: <4ADFA0E6.30009@smartchat.net.au> References: <4AA4B3EA.2070402@smartchat.net.au> <1be3145b-208f-499c-a006-5f2f92caffb0@z30g2000yqz.googlegroups.com> <4AA5B4A2.6070607@smartchat.net.au> <nsbca5dop86vds41f9aj1p6rulam9cd1dk@4ax.com> <sMvGSAJ9ujpKFwul@indaal.demon.co.uk> <4AA72C16.9030901@smartchat.net.au> <satm3wL1C1pKFwPS@indaal.demon.co.uk> <4AB2DB72.9070702@smartchat.net.au> <AY3jn8Fs+muKFwCt@indaal.demon.co.uk> NNTP-Posting-Host: c-59-100-101-38.bri.connect.net.au Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: news-01.bur.connect.com.au 1256169703 6154 59.100.101.38 (22 Oct 2009 00:01:43 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@connect.com.au NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 22 Oct 2009 00:01:43 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.8.0.11) Gecko/20070217 Iceape/1.0.8 (Debian-1.0.8-4) In-Reply-To: <AY3jn8Fs+muKFwCt@indaal.demon.co.uk>