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Article #176Re: Seal hunt begins; IFAW bears witness
From: pearl
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 15:56
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 15:56
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"I R Canuck" <direct_your_NOSPAManger@NOSPAMpopstar.com> wrote in message news:3lwhc.39530$mn3.4702@clgrps13... > Re-post (original didn't show up on my news server) > "pearl" wrote: > > "I R Canuck" wrote: > > > "pearl" wrote: > > > > To clarify; > > > > > > > > "pearl" <tea@signguestbook.ie> wrote in message news:c62s4i$lr2$1@kermit.esat.net... > > > > > "I R Canuck" <direct_your_NOSPAManger@NOSPAMpopstar.com> wrote in message > > > > > news:0rYgc.35278$mn3.13635@clgrps13... > > > > <..> > > > > > > The IFAW observations showed 1.66% of seals skinned alive. > > > > > > > > > > Of those observed. So who's assuming that all seals are skinned > > > > > immediately? You,- when it suits you. > > > > > > > > I meant- counting only those *observed* being skinned, which > > > > you used to find the percentage of the total- observed and not. > > > > > > Pearl, again . . . > > > > > > The IFAW observed 180 seals being killed. They observed 3 skinned > > > alive. > > > > > > 3/180 = 1.66% > > > > > > The seals which were skinned at a later time (remember they were > > > already observed being killed) are dead. > > > > Provide evidence to support your claim if you can. > > http://dict.die.net/killed/ > Source: Webster's Revised Unabridged Dictionary (1913) > > Kill > > 1. To deprive of life, animal or vegetable, in any manner or > by any means; to render inanimate; to put to death; to > slay. > > http://www.ifaw.org/ifaw/dfiles/file_95.pdf > "Of these, 96 seals were shot, 56 seals were shot and then clubbed > or gaffed, 19 seals were clubbed or gaffed, and 8 seals were killed by > unknown means." > > Indicates all of the seals observed were killed. They would be dead > they could not have been skinned alive. No. Look at the Comments Violation / Abuse column. 'Shooting and leave to suffer' appears time after time. Left to suffer until they're butchered. > > > Therefore, they would not have been skinned alive. > > > > Your BS-ing. > > No, I'm not. Yes you are. Shame on you.
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: f4f17,9bd4adf379e406ff X-Google-Attributes: gidf4f17,public X-Google-Thread: f504b,c6de7bfad975eaf3 X-Google-Attributes: gidf504b,public X-Google-Thread: fb374,c6de7bfad975eaf3 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb374,public X-Google-Thread: 10f0bf,9bd4adf379e406ff X-Google-Attributes: gid10f0bf,public X-Google-Thread: 11428d,c6de7bfad975eaf3 X-Google-Attributes: gid11428d,public X-Google-Thread: 107644,c6de7bfad975eaf3 X-Google-Attributes: gid107644,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2004-04-21 08:56:06 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news1.google.com!news.glorb.com!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.wirehub.nl!newsfeed.esat.net!news.esat.net!not-for-mail From: "pearl" <tea@signguestbook.ie> Newsgroups: uk.environment.conservation,can.general,can.politics,can.rec.boating,can.rec.fishing,alt.animals.ethics.vegetarian Subject: Re: Seal hunt begins; IFAW bears witness Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:56:23 +0100 Organization: http://www.iol.ie/~creature/creature.htm Lines: 62 Message-ID: <c665sk$kik$1@kermit.esat.net> References: <qvv280dn2ccq9b963qjcb35o6736le7och@4ax.com> <c5s6sr$549hp$1@ID-15498.news.uni-berlin.de> <Zohgc.38768$vF3.2454926@news20.bellglobal.com> <c5senh$mdh$1@kermit.esat.net> <GlBgc.22709$Wf5.10878@fe1.texas.rr.com> <c5uosa$g73$1@kermit.esat.net> <SjSgc.34826$mn3.9966@clgrps13> <c613ol$5m3$1@kermit.esat.net> <NiVgc.35105$mn3.3699@clgrps13> <c61dr0$966$1@kermit.esat.net> <dmXgc.35179$mn3.6524@clgrps13> <c61i3r$ad1$1@kermit.esat.net> <0rYgc.35278$mn3.13635@clgrps13> <c62s4i$lr2$1@kermit.esat.net> <c62thv$m6p$1@kermit.esat.net> <D%ahc.55836$aD.46359@edtnps89> <c65j5u$f5n$1@kermit.esat.net> <3lwhc.39530$mn3.4702@clgrps13> NNTP-Posting-Host: dialup220.ts001.bmt.esat.net X-Trace: kermit.esat.net 1082563286 21076 193.203.148.220 (21 Apr 2004 16:01:26 GMT) X-Complaints-To: abuse@esat.net NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2004 16:01:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1106 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1106