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Article #186Re: Seal hunt begins; IFAW bears witness
From: usual suspect
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:52
Date: Sun, 18 Apr 2004 23:52
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Lesley wrote: <...> >>So then we should be boycotting every nation that slaughters cows as well? > > The massive reaction What "massive reaction"? The reaction is from the same groups that complained 15 years ago. There's not much clamor about it here, where folks are talking about Roger Clemens, Iraq, Lex's and Kathy's stupid move on Survivor, and American Idol (not necessarily in that order). > against the seal killing is mostly because it > is _extremely_ cruel- Ipse dixit. What's "extreme" or "cruel" about a limited seal hunt? > and carried out on a massive scale too. Massive scale my ass. Re-read the regulations. > Many seals suffer in indescribably *Try* describing it, sweetheart. > awful ways, What's more awful about shooting seals than shooting deer, squirrels, or even the slaughter of beef, pork, or poultry? Tim's question was apropos, and all you've done is dance around the issue and throw out a bunch of redundant adverbs and adjectives. > and such scenes > have been put into full public view this year. Not really. It hasn't been on the news here. Most of what I've seen has been the same agitprop of baby seals being clubbed from, forgive me for calling them this, the usual suspects. Nevermind the fact that the hunt is of adults, not pups, and that guns, not clubs, are being used. > Faced with images of extreme cruelty, Old images from the same old extremist groups. > people have been badly shocked Emotive appeals rather than reason. > and then outraged, I find the response of emotional ninnies like you humorous. > and that is, understandably, directed at the country > that carries out this horror. It's not a horror. > Were the realities of 'meat production' > made public in a similar manner, It's not a dark secret. > I think that most people would > be similarly compelled to oppose that, They know meat is from dead animals, yet they eat it anyway. > and would be boycotting > the meat industry by abstaining from meat - Why aren't they already? > especially when > properly informed with the facts about nutrition- Which they won't get from foot-rubbing charlatans like you. > that we're not > a naturally carnivorous species anyway.. We're naturally omnivorous, like other primates. Chimps and apes eat meat. So did our ancient ancestors. > (clue: we're primates). We know you're unevolved, monkey girl, but cut the rest of us some slack.
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