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pearl wrote:
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>>No, silly woman, I really do laugh at you.
> 
> Only because you're a fool.

No, sweetheart, because you're the fool. See your list.

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>>>You tried to argue that obesity is linked to prostate cancer,
>>
>>I showed that obesity is the primary factor contributing to prostate cancer and
>>other cancers.
> 
> 'primary' now, is it?

Yes.

> Let's see;
> 
> Diet, obesity, and risk of fatal prostate cancer
> DA Snowdon, RL Phillips and W Choi
> 
> Findings described in this report are for 6,763 white male Seventh-day
> Adventists who completed a dietary questionnaire in 1960. Between
> 1960 and 1980 mortality data were collected on cohort members.
> Overweight men had a significantly higher risk of fatal prostate cancer
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Read that again, shithead.

> than men near their desirable weight. *The predicted relative risk of
> fatal prostate cancer was 2.5 for overweight men*. Suggestive positive
                                                      ___________________

What kind of positive correlation? SUGGESTIVE, you imbecile.

> associations were *also* seen between fatal prostate cancer and the
> consumption of milk, cheese, eggs, and meat. 

Were the associations the same for low-fat and non-fat dairy and lean meat 
consumption or across the board? OR WAS THAT EVEN CONSIDERED?!

You're as ignorant about nutrition as the Atkins people. They say ALL carbs are 
bad, even though complex carbs don't cause the same kinds of glucose spikes that 
simple carbs do. You ignorantly engage in the same type of ignorant hysteria by 
failing to distinguish between good sources of proteins and bad. Pay attention 
below to the part about consumption, too. People who eat lean meats and 
reduced-fat dairy products usually don't engage in heavy consumption, which is 
one reason why they're not obese (which is one of the primary factors for 
certain kinds of cancers, CHD, etc.). You ass.

> There was an orderly
> dose- response between each of the four animal products and risk.
> *The predicted relative risk of fatal prostate cancer was 3.6 for those
> who heavily consumed all four animal products.* The results of this study
       ________________

Moderate consumption? NO. HEAVY CONSUMPTION.

> and others suggest that animal product consumption and obesity may be
> risk factors for fatal prostate cancer.

Note that the authors consider them FACTOR*S* -- PLURAL.

> http://aje.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/120/2/244
> <*emphasis mine>
> 
> Looks like animal product consumption is the primary factor
> contributing to fatal prostate cancer, 

IPSE DIXIT. THAT IS NOT THE FINDING REACHED IN THAT STUDY, NITWIT.

> particularly as meat eating
> is also associated with obesity.

IPSE DIXIT. You dolt.

>>>ignoring the meat aspect,
>>
>>I didn't ignore it,
> 
> You scrawled;
> "Same survey, same researchers. Compare these findings to other
> studies of *OVERWEIGHT* study participants. *Obesity* kills,"

Yes, and all the other links showing correlations between obesity and certain 
kinds of cancer. Which kinds? Those which are considered to be influenced by 
hormones: prostate, breast, etc. Another hormonal issue affecting obese people: 
diabetes, which also goes along with CHD.

http://www.obesity-and-cancer.com/
http://dceg.cancer.gov/prost-cancer.html
http://cancerres.aacrjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/51/2/568
http://www.coloradohealthsite.org/cancer/treatment_8.html
http://www.fao.org/docrep/V4700E/V4700E0g.htm
http://www.stanford.edu/~jpc/Chapter5.htm
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/conference/kolonel.html

>>I pointed out that HIGH CONSUMPTION of foods with saturated
>>fat was noted as a factor in your study.
> 
> Not only.

You retard. "Suggestive associations" are not strong ones.

> 'Suggestive positive associations were also seen between fatal prostate
> cancer and the consumption of milk, cheese, eggs, and meat. *There was
> an orderly dose- response between each of the four animal products and
> risk.* The predicted relative risk of fatal prostate cancer was 3.6 for those
> who heavily consumed all four animal products.  The results of this study
> and others suggest that animal product consumption and obesity may be
> risk factors for fatal prostate cancer.
> http://aje.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/120/2/244
> <*emphasis mine>
> 
>>You stupidly but conveniently ignored
>>(a) that the group with the highest mortality rate were already overweight and
> 
> Show us where you read that.

	The predicted relative risk of fatal prostate cancer was 3.6 for those
	who heavily consumed all four animal products.

>>(b) that their consumption wasn't moderate or average.
> 
> That'd be correct.

Damn right.

>>>then I showed you that meat eaters were
>>>four times more likely to be obese.
>>
>>That wasn't a scientific survey.
> 
> Of course it was.

No, it was not.

>>> IDIOT.
>>
>>Whore.
> 
> Liar.

Chelsea.

>>>>>hahaha.  BTW, thanks for this;
>>>>>
>>>>>'Suggestive positive associations were also seen between fatal
>>>>>prostate cancer and the consumption of milk, cheese, eggs, and
>>>>>meat. There was an orderly dose- response between each of
>>>>>the four animal products and risk. The predicted relative risk of
>>>>>fatal prostate cancer was 3.6 for those who heavily consumed
>>>>>all four animal products.'
>>>>
>>>>Pay attention: those surveyed in that study were OBESE and they HEAVILY consumed
>>>>those products. Both factors -- obesity and level of consumption -- are notable.
>>>
>>>Both factors in their own right, not together.
>>
>>Yes, together.
> 
> No, not together.

Yes, together. See other studies.

>>>What a tired ploy.
>>
>>I know you don't comprehend science, which is why you rub feet for a living.
>>Stop trying to play like you understand what you're posting; the only person
>>you're fooling is yourself.
> 
> You wish.  You aint got a clue- still.

You should play with the Atkins zealots since you share their inability to 
distinguish between healthy and unhealthy foods.

>>>>>Not so useless, after all.  Rah.
>>>>
>>>>I'm not, but you sure are.
>>>
>>>You're beneath contempt,
>>
>>Just yours, moron.
>>
>>
>>>murderous fool.
>>
>>I've never murdered anyone. As for the other part of your ad hominem, pot kettle
>>black.
> 
> Idiot child- you support WAR.

I support peace. Sometimes war is an inevitable step to having peace. It sure as 
hell doesn't come when nations appease terrorist and thug regimes like you 
wanted to do. How many more children would you have starved in Iraq through 
"containment," you bloodthirsty murderer?