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Re: IFAW - Saving Harp Seals

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From: pearl
Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 22:09
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"usual suspect" <godbless@pat.tillman> wrote in message news:E2wjc.28891$hR1.6175@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> pearl wrote:
<..>
> > Ref #235 - Giem P
> > SO: Neuroepidemiology. 1993; 12(1): 28-36
> > AB: We investigated the relationship between animal product
> > consumption and evidence of dementia in two cohort substudies.
>
> My God, you stupid woman.

"All cruelty springs from weakness." (Seneca, 4BC-AD65)

> Why can't you stick to one issue at a time instead of
> treating scientific studies the same way you treat your conspiracy theory
> sources?

The issue in this threadlet is diet.

> What's the incidence of dementia in groups like the Inuit who eat very
> little in the way of plant foods and a lot of meat?

Meat and fish.  You tell us.  The omega 3s in fish may be protective,
but there's another problem;

'In a survey of 93% of the adult population of a Baffin region
settlement in the NWT (Nunavut), Sampath (1974) found that over
one third of those interviewed had a mental disorder according to
DSM-II criteria. High prevalence rates were found for schizophrenia
(28/1000), affective psychoses (46/1000), neuroses (116/1000) and
personality disorder (177/1000). On a measure of global distress,
the Health Opinion Survey questionnaire, women reported more
symptoms than men and an increase in severe symptoms with age.
In contrast, men showed a decrease in severe symptomatology with
age. Sampath (1976a,b) attributed these differences to differential
effects of modernization. Among those with personality disorders
70% were found to have a hysterical personality often with
dissociative symptoms which Sampath related to 'pibloktoq'.
http://www.mcgill.ca/psychiatry/transcultural/pdf/Report4.pdf

'Experimental and clinical studies of nonhumans and humans
reveal somatic and behavioral effects of hypervitaminosis A
which closely parallel many of the symptoms reported for
Western patients diagnosed as hysterical and Inuit sufferers
of pibloktoq.  Eskimo nutrition provides abundant sources
of vitamin A and lays the probable basis in some individuals
for hypervitaminosis A through ingestion of livers, kidneys,
and fat of arctic fish and mammals, where the vitamin often
is stored in poisonous quantities.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov:80/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=4049004&dopt=Abstract

> <snip of stuff you'll NEVER understand or stop abusing>

Why are you asking for more evidence, when you have this?

<restore>

Ref #235 - Giem P
SO: Neuroepidemiology. 1993; 12(1): 28-36
AB: We investigated the relationship between animal product
consumption and evidence of dementia in two cohort substudies.
The first enrolled 272 California residents matched for age,
sex, and zip code (1 vegan, 1 lacto-ovo-vegetarian, and 2
'heavy' meat eaters in each of 68 quartets). This design ensured
a wide range of dietary exposure. The second included 2,984
unmatched subjects who resided within the Loma Linda,
California area. All subjects were enrolled in the Adventist
Health Study. The matched subjects who ate meat (including
poultry and fish) were more than twice as likely to become
demented as their vegetarian counterparts (relative risk 2.18,
p = 0.065) and the discrepancy was further widened (relative
risk 2.99, p = 0.048) when past meat consumption was taken
into account. There was no significant difference in the
incidence of dementia in the vegetarian versus meat-eating
unmatched subjects. There was no obvious explanation for
the difference between the two substudies, although the power
of the unmatched sub-study to detect an effect of 'heavy' meat
consumption was unexpectedly limited. There was a trend
towards delayed onset of dementia in vegetarians in both
substudies.
http://www.llu.edu/llu/health/abstracts/abstracts2.htm
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