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"usual suspect" <godbless@pat.tillman> wrote in message news:v4Cjc.33774$Dn1.7135@fe2.texas.rr.com...
> pearl wrote:
> >>><..>
> >>>
> >>>>>The consumption of meat, eggs, milk, and cheese did not
> >>>>>have negative associations with any of the causes of death investigated.
> >>>>
> >>>>See this one from the same author, dummy:
> >>>>Diet, obesity, and risk of fatal prostate cancer
> >>>>
> >>>>DA Snowdon, RL Phillips and W Choi
> >>>>
> >>>>Findings described in this report are for 6,763 white male Seventh-day
> >>>>Adventists who completed a dietary questionnaire in 1960. Between 1960
> >>>>and 1980 mortality data were collected on cohort members. *Overweight*
> >>>>men had a significantly higher risk of fatal prostate cancer than men
> >>>>near their desirable weight. The predicted relative risk of fatal
> >>>>prostate cancer was 2.5 for *overweight* men. Suggestive positive
> >>>>associations were also seen between fatal prostate cancer and the
> >>>>consumption of milk, cheese, eggs, and meat. There was an orderly dose-
> >>>>response between each of the four animal products and risk. The
> >>>>predicted relative risk of fatal prostate cancer was 3.6 for those who
> >>>>heavily consumed all four animal products. The results of this study and
> >>>>others suggest that animal product consumption and *obesity* may be risk
> >>>>factors for fatal prostate cancer.
> >>>>MY EMPHASIS, DUMMY.
> >>>>http://aje.oupjournals.org/cgi/content/abstract/120/2/244
> >>>>
> >>>>Same survey, same researchers. Compare these findings to other studies of
> >>>>*OVERWEIGHT* study participants. *Obesity* kills,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>J Clin Gastroenterol. 1986 Aug;8(4):451-3.
> >>>Energy intake and body weight in ovo-lacto vegetarians.
> >>>Levin N, Rattan J, Gilat T.
> >>>  Vegetarians have a lower body weight than omnivores.
> >>
> >>*Entirely* irrelevant to the issue at hand. Stop moving goalposts, you nasty
> >>foot-fetishist.
> >
> > Temper, temper.
>
> My temper is under control. I laugh at you, I don't lose my cool.

You lie.

> > You tried to move the goalposts, but they
> > were just too heavy for you.
>
> No, Lesley, I showed your misuse of the studies you cite. I can show you fat
> veg-ns and thin meat-eaters. It has nothing to do with your points taken from
> the SDA study. As Derek has also rightly shown, SDAs are not merely vegetarian.
> Their lifestyles encompass factors far beyond the scope of the studies you've
> (mis)used to make points.

Nope.  You tried to argue that obesity is linked to prostate cancer,
ignoring the meat aspect, then I showed you that meat eaters were
four times more likely to be obese.  IDIOT.

> > hahaha.  BTW, thanks for this;
> >
> > 'Suggestive positive associations were also seen between fatal
> > prostate cancer and the consumption of milk, cheese, eggs, and
> > meat. There was an orderly dose- response between each of
> > the four animal products and risk. The predicted relative risk of
> > fatal prostate cancer was 3.6 for those who heavily consumed
> > all four animal products.'
>
> Pay attention: those surveyed in that study were OBESE and they HEAVILY consumed
> those products. Both factors -- obesity and level of consumption -- are notable.

Both factors in their own right, not together.  What a tired ploy.

> > Not so useless, after all.  Rah.
>
> I'm not, but you sure are.

You're beneath contempt, murderous fool.