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Article #13Re: Cannot collect news from Claranet
From: Jim Crowther
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:56
Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:56
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Crossposted to unp and dist, both on different servers here at this time. In message <0b7prvsa6emohj8s424nf0ocjs0jolokfb@4ax.com>, Anthony R. Gold <not-for-mail@ahjg.co.uk> writes: >On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 10:48:07 +0000, Peter - 0870 432 9616 ><newspost.10.webnet@spamgourmet.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, "Anthony R. Gold" wrote: >> >>> ordering of groups in the Newsgroups: line is immaterial. >> >> Perhaps Turnpike would take note - multiple news servers aren't >> an option with Agent, of course, but if Turnpike determined it >> needed to post to Claranet, then crosspost would have worked. > >The issue here is not the behaviour of the user's client but that ClaraNet >drops any article cross-posted across internal and external newsgroups. > >Molly believes this dropping of cross-posted articles depends on the >ordering of the group names in the Newsgroups: line while I do not. IIRC, the current version of Turnpike will issue a warning if an attempt is made to cross-post to newsgroups that are associated with different servers. It will then post only one copy to the server associated with the first newsgroup in the newsgroup line. This prevents duplicates with different MIDs, among other hazards. AIIRC, this was the same in TP5.01, but broke down when the first newsgroup wasn't subscribed, and therefore had no associated server. In this case, the current version selects the first newsgroup that does have an associated server. I don't know claranet's policies on crossposted articles, so cannot comment on which way round could result in a true cross-post. I can imagine ways for it to work in one order of newsgroups, but not the other. This will go via news.aaisp.net.uk, but should propagate properly. -- Jim Crowther "It's MY computer" (tm SMG) Avoid more swen by dumping your old Usenet addresses, and put 'spam' or 'delete' somewhere in the Reply-to: header. Help yourself avoid the spam: <http://keir.net/k9.html>
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: ff1d9,3743fc38ddc53e10,start X-Google-Attributes: gidff1d9,public X-Google-Thread: 106268,1db45d1544fe50fe X-Google-Attributes: gid106268,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 2003-11-20 08:56:49 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!archiver1.google.com!news2.google.com!news.maxwell.syr.edu!easynet-monga!easynet.net!news-peer-lilac.gradwell.net!not-for-mail Message-ID: <N9XPgHiIJPv$EwuB@nospam.at.my.choice.of.UID> Date: Thu, 20 Nov 2003 16:56:40 +0000 From: Jim Crowther <Don't_bother@blackhole.do-not-spam.me.uk> Reply-To: Jim Crowther <Don't_spam@crowfam.org.uk> Sender: Jim Crowther <sender@crowfam.org.uk> Newsgroups: uk.net.providers,demon.ip.support.turnpike Subject: Re: Cannot collect news from Claranet References: <gmjaeTAwXot$EwLL@clara.net> <lJ1r1WAmTnu$EwhA@clara.net> <bpdtq6$1mrd3l$1@ID-20959.news.uni-berlin.de> <bpe30u$1nsjp8$1@ID-20959.news.uni-berlin.de> <bpe563$1ndkc8$1@ID-20959.news.uni-berlin.de> <Fc2zA6Aq4yu$EwUk@clara.net> <56fmrvo4qmemu39khblquf811elkl2g490@4ax.com> <FceyREZso8u$EAF7@highwayman.com> <injnrv8uj2q66fat2ojl8ofkkt92rlro1e@4ax.com> <8mnde6AqBIv$EwYG@clara.net> <vn1prvssf3c3lhsg0cdflaopbhdmo5s3g3@4ax.com> <rq6prvk3a29vmn42si829co6aj9h4h7e05@news.clara.net> <0b7prvsa6emohj8s424nf0ocjs0jolokfb@4ax.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed User-Agent: Turnpike/6.02-U (<GOrJ6thbDxea8XRWyyiFFLK213>) Lines: 47 NNTP-Posting-Date: 20 Nov 2003 16:56:48 GMT NNTP-Posting-Host: 81.187.216.91 X-Trace: 1069347408 news.aaisp.net.uk 52880 81.187.216.91 X-Complaints-To: aaispnews-abuse@gradwell.net