🚀 go-pugleaf

karen <karen@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk> wrote in message
news:20011218.235128.352118606.168@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk...
> In article <51PT7.35695$pU3.4264864@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
> "anthonyberet" <Reply@newsgrouponly.net> wrote:
>
> > karen <karen@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk> wrote in message
> > news:20011218.141113.1626276121.169@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk...
> >> In article <7DwT7.23056$4e3.3036669@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
> >> "anthonyberet" <Reply@newsgrouponly.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> > <DarkLady@basement.org> wrote in message
> >> > news:FGAT5LHQ37241.3972916667@anonymous.poster...
> >> >> "pisces" <pisces48@yahoo.com> writes:
> >> >>
> >> >> > (you must be logged in to vote)
> >> >> >  For     Against     Abstain
> >> >>
> >> >> If I got to be logged in then I'll not vote....
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> If you that bothered about it all why you not using Anonymous
> >> >> Remailer services, Tsch tsch.....
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> [snipped]
> >> >>
> >> > remailers are no defence against ISP caches and keystroke
> >> > recorders....
> >>
> >> All my ISP will get is a multi PGP encrypted mail, they can store my
> >> outgoing mail but will not be able to read it.  As for keystroke
> >> recorders there are rumours, well a little more than rumour now that
> >> the FBI are doing this sort of thing but you would have to have little
> >> control and or knowledge about your system for them to get away with
> >> it, not very likely, at least on a linux/unix system, I cant comment on
> >> windows, except that I know windows seems to be full of holes and
> >> bugs!.
> >>
> > http://www.google.com/search?q=keystroke+recorder
>
> Thats slightly different from what I thought you meant, what the FBI
> seem to be up to is trying to install such progs by virus means. not an
> easy feat to do without the operator knowing about it. Windows users
> dont have access to windows source code, how sure can you be that
> there not code in built in windows to do the FBI's job for them!. If not
> they do it already then maybe they will in future. There are new version
> of PGP that have been released without the source code now and poeple
> are advising not to use these releases just in case they been tampered
> with.
>
I do believe the FBI have developed a trojan which acts as a keylogger, and
can record/mail the results.
It was used in one case to record the password to a target's PGP.
I got the impression it could be installed remotely.
McCaffee said that if software like this was being used by the FBI they
would not introduce software to detect it.
Can't find a link though, and trojans are hard to plant
remotely....but...........