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In article <zWuU7.9073$US4.900744@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
"anthonyberet" <Reply@newsgrouponly.net> wrote:

> karen <karen@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:20011218.235128.352118606.168@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk...
>> In article <51PT7.35695$pU3.4264864@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
>> "anthonyberet" <Reply@newsgrouponly.net> wrote:
>>
>> > karen <karen@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk> wrote in message
>> > news:20011218.141113.1626276121.169@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk...
>> >> In article <7DwT7.23056$4e3.3036669@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
>> >> "anthonyberet" <Reply@newsgrouponly.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > <DarkLady@basement.org> wrote in message
>> >> > news:FGAT5LHQ37241.3972916667@anonymous.poster...
>> >> >> "pisces" <pisces48@yahoo.com> writes:
>> >> >>
>> >> >> > (you must be logged in to vote)
>> >> >> >  For     Against     Abstain
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If I got to be logged in then I'll not vote....
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> If you that bothered about it all why you not using Anonymous
>> >> >> Remailer services, Tsch tsch.....
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> [snipped]
>> >> >>
>> >> > remailers are no defence against ISP caches and keystroke
>> >> > recorders....
>> >>
>> >> All my ISP will get is a multi PGP encrypted mail, they can store my
>> >> outgoing mail but will not be able to read it.  As for keystroke
>> >> recorders there are rumours, well a little more than rumour now that
>> >> the FBI are doing this sort of thing but you would have to have
>> >> little control and or knowledge about your system for them to get
>> >> away with it, not very likely, at least on a linux/unix system, I
>> >> cant comment on windows, except that I know windows seems to be full
>> >> of holes and bugs!.
>> >>
>> > http://www.google.com/search?q=keystroke+recorder
>>
>> Thats slightly different from what I thought you meant, what the FBI
>> seem to be up to is trying to install such progs by virus means. not an
>> easy feat to do without the operator knowing about it. Windows users
>> dont have access to windows source code, how sure can you be that there
>> not code in built in windows to do the FBI's job for them!. If not they
>> do it already then maybe they will in future. There are new version of
>> PGP that have been released without the source code now and poeple are
>> advising not to use these releases just in case they been tampered
>> with.
>>
> I do believe the FBI have developed a trojan which acts as a keylogger,
> and can record/mail the results.
> It was used in one case to record the password to a target's PGP. I got
> the impression it could be installed remotely.

Yes I think it is that Magic Lantern thingy they were on about in that
thread I mentioned earlier.

 McCaffee said that if
> software like this was being used by the FBI they would not introduce
> software to detect it. Can't find a link though, and trojans are hard to
> plant remotely....but...........


Just saw on Ceefax about windoze XP, suposed to be very good
at security but a bug in it just found would enable a hacker to
take over your system, he he, I would demand my money back
not that I would pay money for such buggy software of course!.

It's odd isnt it, America has the constitution, we have nothing like
that, I think it just that governments dont really like the idea of
people being able to mass communicate with each other, this whole
idea of protecting 'us' from terrorists is a load of twaddle, I read
somewhere, may have been here that with all the snooping already
going on even the might of the FBI, CIA, NSA etc etc didnt even
have a whiff of Sept 11, makes you wonder what the real agenda
to all this snooping is!.......I mean we have known for years who the
IRA are and where they live but knowing their names and addresses
didnt stop the bombs and murders continuing.


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