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Re: Poll: for/against Net surveillance in UK Anti-Terrorism law ?

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From: karen
Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2001 23:51
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In article <51PT7.35695$pU3.4264864@news2-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
"anthonyberet" <Reply@newsgrouponly.net> wrote:

> karen <karen@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:20011218.141113.1626276121.169@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk...
>> In article <7DwT7.23056$4e3.3036669@news6-win.server.ntlworld.com>,
>> "anthonyberet" <Reply@newsgrouponly.net> wrote:
>>
>> > <DarkLady@basement.org> wrote in message
>> > news:FGAT5LHQ37241.3972916667@anonymous.poster...
>> >> "pisces" <pisces48@yahoo.com> writes:
>> >>
>> >> > (you must be logged in to vote)
>> >> >  For     Against     Abstain
>> >>
>> >> If I got to be logged in then I'll not vote....
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> If you that bothered about it all why you not using Anonymous
>> >> Remailer services, Tsch tsch.....
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [snipped]
>> >>
>> > remailers are no defence against ISP caches and keystroke
>> > recorders....
>>
>> All my ISP will get is a multi PGP encrypted mail, they can store my
>> outgoing mail but will not be able to read it.  As for keystroke
>> recorders there are rumours, well a little more than rumour now that
>> the FBI are doing this sort of thing but you would have to have little
>> control and or knowledge about your system for them to get away with
>> it, not very likely, at least on a linux/unix system, I cant comment on
>> windows, except that I know windows seems to be full of holes and
>> bugs!.
>>
> http://www.google.com/search?q=keystroke+recorder

Thats slightly different from what I thought you meant, what the FBI
seem to be up to is trying to install such progs by virus means. not an
easy feat to do without the operator knowing about it. Windows users
dont have access to windows source code, how sure can you be that
there not code in built in windows to do the FBI's job for them!. If not
they do it already then maybe they will in future. There are new version
of PGP that have been released without the source code now and poeple
are advising not to use these releases just in case they been tampered
with.

> 
>
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From: "karen" <karen@redshift1.worldonline.co.uk>
Newsgroups: uk.net.regulation,alt.privacy,uk.politics.censorship,demon.service,uk.gov.social-security
Subject: Re: Poll: for/against Net surveillance in UK Anti-Terrorism law ?
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