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Re: Cambridge Audio music server (networking)

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From: David E
Date: Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:07
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It will work on a domain, but it does not have the capability to provide the 
necessary authentication. Create a share on a machine, enable the Guest 
account (not a good thing to do usually) and it should see the share.

If the 640H is set to dhcp and it connected to the hub that the router is 
connected to, it will get all it's necessary details. It should do a 
broadcast when it boots up to check for any dhcp servers.

There are several designated private network address ranges (198.1.1.1 is 
not one of them)
10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255
172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255
192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255

These are the only ones you should be using on your internal network.

In the small hub did you plug in the router as well? As it wouldn't find the 
router as a gateway unless it was also plugged into the small hub.

In regards to it not finding it, is the XP machine still on the main switch 
as well? Also if there is noise on the line, sometimes forcing it back to 
10base speed can help.



<berkyj@gmail.com> wrote in message 
news:1153976723.605154.243040@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
> Ok,
>
> Here's the latest update - sorry its taken me a couple of days to post
> this.
>
> I sent an email to CA support about this issue as well and received a
> response indicating that because my XP machine was part of a Domain
> that this may be the cause of it not connecting. Anyway I thought I
> would step it right back to basics.
>
> Firstly I removed the XP box from the Domain and brought the 640H into
> where the XP box is located. I set up a small hub and plugged the two
> network cables into this. Voila, after some messing around it worked
> but here was the strange thing; it would only work if I set the gateway
> to the IP address of the XP box, if I set it to the actual IP of the
> router (the proper gateway) it didn't want to know about it. At least I
> was getting somewhere.
>
> Next I moved the 640H out to where the main network switch is located
> (another room) and plugged it in there and tried the same thing - no
> problems. Connected fine and found the share.
>
> When I moved it back to the lounge room where I want it to live it then
> couldn't find it. I checked all the cabling with a cable tester to make
> sure there were no dead pins or switched pins and it all worked fine.
> The only thing I can think of is that it doesn't like a cable run that
> long (it's only about 20metres tops but longer than the other runs I
> was testing it on).
>
> Anyway, primary problem solved - the 640H will not work within a
> Windows Domain environment, it obviously doesn't have the necessary
> networking components needed to access the share (strange considering
> my laptop which is not part of my home Domain could see the share with
> no problems).
>
> I have a spare machine I will build up as a dedicated mp3 box and it
> can sit closer to the 640H and hopefully that will work.
>
> Overall, I'm a bit dissapointed in how the 640H handles networking
> considering it sells it as one of its features. I just think some more
> effort needed to be put into it or hopefully will be in a future update
> (depending on how regularly they are released).
>
> Thanks for your help at anyrate.
>
> Berk
>
>
> TT wrote:
>> Hi Berky,
>>
>> You sure have given it a good go.
>>
>> OK a few thoughts here to start with.
>>
>> Your assigned IP address for the 640H is it in the allowed
>> IP range for the router.
>>
>> Next go to your Windoze machine and
>>
>> Start > Search > Computers or People > Computer on Network >
>> Computer Name (Azur?) - hit search and see if it finds it.
>> Sometimes you have to kick the process along ;-)
>>
>> Next *IF* this still doesn't work try searching for the
>> Windoze computer on the network.  That is, see if it will
>> find itself.  This way it will check to see if the computer
>> name is the same as its network name.  Make sure it is the
>> same spelling and same case without any non-alphanumeric
>> characters.
>>
>> Another thing to check is that you are running a TCIP
>> network so make sure any other protocol like NetBeui is
>> disabled.  I got caught here once before ;-)
>>
>> Try these and get back if any more probs.
>>
>> Cheers TT
>>
>>
>> <berkyj@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> news:1153744369.188032.257750@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
>> > Ok,
>> >
>> > Have spent about 3 hours trying to get this to work with
>> the same
>> > result.... nothing.
>> >
>> > I firstly went through the system with a fine tooth comb
>> and made sure
>> > I hadn't missed anything - all was present.
>> >
>> > Next I updated the software which appeared to be the same
>> as what was
>> > on the system already. So my current system information is
>> as follows:
>> >
>> > Under System/Information:
>> > System Version     02.01.50
>> > OS Version            3.36
>> > Software Version    02.09.84
>> > HD stuff....
>> > Settings                6116_06.ca
>> > Installer                v07.00/B/P
>> >
>> > Under Settings/System/System Information:
>> > Unit Name            Azur
>> >
>> > Under Settings/System/Product/Network/Options:
>> > Automatic IP settings (DHCP) - i've switched this off
>> >
>> > Under Settings/System/Product/Network/Ethernet:
>> > IP Address           192.168.1.8
>> > Subnet Mask        255.255.255.0
>> > Gateway              192.168.1.1    (this is my ADSL
>> router)
>> > Name Server        210.15.254.240    (ISP's Name Server)
>> >
>> > At this point I selected the Apply option to save the
>> network settings
>> > than went to Settings/System/Content/Add Location/File
>> Location and
>> > added a Friendly name, plus the name of the network share
>> > ("\\tigoshi\mp3s" minus the quote marks) and left the
>> username as Guest
>> > then went to Scan and each time it comes back with
>> "Content location
>> > could not be found".
>> >
>> > A diagram of my network setup can be found at
>> > http://www.bigcat.net.au/temp/network.gif to give a better
>> idea of how
>> > the network is setup and where the 640H connects to
>> things.
>> >
>> > I've tried turning off firewalls on the XP box to see if
>> that makes a
>> > difference to no avail. I even switched the DHCP server on
>> the router
>> > on and all I got was the 169.something virtual private
>> network address
>> > which meant it didn't find the DHCP server. I know the
>> cabling is all
>> > fine because as mentioned in a previous post i tested it
>> using a laptop
>> > to the point where the 640H is plugged into and was able
>> to browse the
>> > share fine.
>> >
>> > The only other point to note is that my computers are
>> networked in a
>> > Windows Server Domain in that the XP machine requires me
>> to logon which
>> > is checked by the other machine via Active Directory (the
>> whole windows
>> > server thing), but this seems not to be the main problem
>> as my laptop
>> > is configured for my work Domain and differs from this
>> Domain here.
>> >
>> > Any thoughts? Suggestions??
>> >
>> > Cheers muchly...
>> >
>> > Berk McGowan
>> > berk@bigcat.net.au
>> >
>> >
>> > TT wrote:
>> > > <berkyj@gmail.com> wrote in message
>> > >
>> news:1153705057.965111.39510@b28g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
>> > >
>> > > :
>> > > : I will definitely go back tonight and start a fresh
>> and go
>> > > through it
>> > > : step by step to make sure I didn't miss anything.
>> > >
>> > > I think you will find you have missed something obvious
>> ;-)
>> > >
>> > >  Are you using fixed
>> > > : IP addressing for all your computers in your network
>> or a
>> > > combination
>> > > : of fixed and DHCP?
>> > >
>> > > It's all DHCP.  Except I did assign a number to the 640H
>> > > that is within the allowed IP adress range of my router.
>> > > :
>> > > : An aside question: Is it worth updating the software
>> of
>> > > the 640H?
>> > >
>> > > Oh dear :-(  You *MUST* update the software as there are
>> > > some dreadful glitches in the first version it was
>> shipped
>> > > with.  Tip back up all your music filese first before
>> doing
>> > > the update.  The process is very easy to do and the
>> result
>> > > is a much more stable machine.  I would actully
>> reconmend
>> > > wiping the HD, update the software and then reload all
>> the
>> > > music
>> > > :
>> > > :
>> > > Cheers TT
>> > > :
>> > > : TT wrote:
>> > > : > Hi berkyj,
>> > > : >
>> > > : > I see you have read my previous post on this so I
>> would
>> > > : > suggest you have a good look at the 640H set up
>> again as
>> > > jb
>> > > : > seemed to get his to work OK.
>> > > : >
>> > > : > If you follow *all* the tips I have already said and
>> it
>> > > : > still wont work please get back to us here with some
>> > > : > specific questions.
>> > > : >
>> > > : > Cheers TT
>> > > : >
>> > > : >
>> > > :
>> >
> 
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