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Ben Thomas wrote:

Hello Ben,

> I have a pair of Warfedale 100watt rms 2way speakers that I bought
> new in 1993 ish, and I think they might be cs30 model or something
> like that.  

Possibly the old CRS series

> I'm wondering if anyone has any experiences with replacing
> the woofer in these speakers, or other speakers, and what it
> might cost me, and if it is really worth it?
>
Wharfedale International still runs a large and efficient [ sometimes ]
service department and the woofer you mention can either be sent back
for a re-cone or you can buy another one. The man to send it to is

Phil Escott 
Wharfedale International Service Dept
SG Acoustics Warehouse
Robin Mill
Idle
Bradford
Leeds
UK

> They cost me $400 Australian back in 1993, and the next set of
> speakers I want will probably set me back $1000 Aus at least, so
> if I can fix the woofer for 100 or so I might do it.

I'd imagine it would cost about 20 quid exl posting

> (posted to uk.rec.audio because Warfedale are English, no?)
> --
Hmmm <smile>

> Ben Thomas
> Quality Assurance - Unico Computer Systems - Melbourne, Australia
> Question:  What are eyebrows for anyway?

Eyebrows are there to stop the sweat generated form your forehead
running directly into your eyes - thats what my PE teacher said to me
once anyway

Ambrose Thompson
Acoustic Engineer [IAG - Wharfedale,Quad,Leak}

<36918FD4.CE937539@unico.com.au>, Ben Thomas <ben@unico.com.au> wrote:
>I'm wondering if anyone has any experiences with replacing 
>the woofer in these speakers, or other speakers, and what it
>might cost me, and if it is really worth it?

It may well be cheaper to get the woofer re-coned. There must be someone
in Oz who will do that. Shipping back to UK for re-coning is out, on
cost grounds.
-- 
Regards, John Woodgate, Phone +44 (0)1268 747839 Fax +44 (0)1268 777124. 
OOO - Own Opinions Only. You can fool all of the people some of the time, but 
you can't please some of the people any of the time.

Ben Thomas wrote:
> 
> John Woodgate wrote:
> 
> > It may well be cheaper to get the woofer re-coned. There must be someone
> > in Oz who will do that. Shipping back to UK for re-coning is out, on
> > cost grounds.
> 
> Yeah, but my clever effort of kicking the woofer probably damaged
> the voice coil, so would reconing fix this?

When a speaker is reconed the whole moving part is replaced. This
includes the voice coil, cone and suspension. In my experience the most
common reason for reconing is for overheated voice coils which have
either warmed up so much that they are out of shape and rubbing or have
gone open circuit.

James.

<36929AFA.B0BE9251@unico.com.au>, Ben Thomas <ben@unico.com.au> wrote,
preferably NOT having sent me a copy by e-mail:
>> I'd imagine it would cost about 20 quid exl posting
>That is next to nothing as far as I am concerned.

You may have problems posting a loudspeaker because of its external
magnetic field. The post office might accept it but air-mail is checked
for magnets which might upset the aircraft systems or other mail (send
your own pack of floppy discs with it, and see if that convinces you!).
It may be diverted to surface mail, in which case, you'll get it back
just in time for the next millenium but one.
-- 
Regards, John Woodgate, Phone +44 (0)1268 747839 Fax +44 (0)1268 777124. 
OOO - Own Opinions Only. You can fool all of the people some of the time, but 
you can't please some of the people any of the time.

<36929885.2CD17A0@unico.com.au>, Ben Thomas <ben@unico.com.au> wrote,
preferably NOT having sent me a copy by e-mail:
>eah, but my clever effort of kicking the woofer probably damaged
>the voice coil, so would reconing fix this?
Yes, or it should. The whole cone assembly is replaced. But ask the
people doing the job, to be sure.
-- 
Regards, John Woodgate, Phone +44 (0)1268 747839 Fax +44 (0)1268 777124. 
OOO - Own Opinions Only. You can fool all of the people some of the time, but 
you can't please some of the people any of the time.

That seems remarkably cheap

I've been quoted 'orrible ammounts of money from other makers (eg. H|H)

Pete

Remember - the sound-man ALWAYS has the last word ... {:o)

Ambrose wrote in message <369263C3.442E@virgin.net>...
>> if I can fix the woofer for 100 or so I might do it.
>
>I'd imagine it would cost about 20 quid exl posting

John Woodgate wrote:

> It may well be cheaper to get the woofer re-coned. There must be someone
> in Oz who will do that. Shipping back to UK for re-coning is out, on
> cost grounds.

Yeah, but my clever effort of kicking the woofer probably damaged
the voice coil, so would reconing fix this?
-- 
Ben Thomas
Quality Assurance - Unico Computer Systems - Melbourne, Australia
Question:  What are eyebrows for anyway?
ben _AT_ unico _DOT_ com _DOT_ au (change _AT_ to @ and _DOT_ to .)

Ambrose wrote:

> Possibly the old CRS series
Sounds right actually.

> Wharfedale International still runs a large and efficient [ sometimes ]
> service department and the woofer you mention can either be sent back
> for a re-cone or you can buy another one. The man to send it to is
> 
> Phil Escott
> Wharfedale International Service Dept
> SG Acoustics Warehouse
> Robin Mill
> Idle
> Bradford
> Leeds
> UK

Thanks for the info.  I used my brain (very rare) and just went looking
for the Wharfedale site, and it looks like I might be able to get more
info from there.

> I'd imagine it would cost about 20 quid exl posting
That is next to nothing as far as I am concerned.

> > Question:  What are eyebrows for anyway?

> Eyebrows are there to stop the sweat generated form your forehead
> running directly into your eyes - thats what my PE teacher said to me
> once anyway

Well I have seen lots of people with faulty eyebrows. :)  Mine don't
work
to well either, so I think I'll have to scrap myself...

-- 
Ben Thomas
Quality Assurance - Unico Computer Systems - Melbourne, Australia
Question:  What are eyebrows for anyway?
ben _AT_ unico _DOT_ com _DOT_ au (change _AT_ to @ and _DOT_ to .)

Pete the Hasbeen wrote:
> 
> That seems remarkably cheap
> 
> I've been quoted 'orrible ammounts of money from other makers (eg. H|H)
 
> Ambrose wrote in message <369263C3.442E@virgin.net>...
> >> if I can fix the woofer for 100 or so I might do it.
> >
> >I'd imagine it would cost about 20 quid exl posting

Find an independent repairer - Loudspeaker Services in Waterlooville,
Hampshire is one that I'd recommend. A smaller speaker would be around
20 quid while a 12" speaker would be around 30-40 quid.

James.

Dear BEN,

If you like I will make some enquires for you, Id much rather you get a
proper job done by Wharfedale. The best way to get to the original sound
is to use the original parts. Wharfedale are quite big in Australia and
I believe we control our own distribution network there. Shipments of
products and service parts [generally complete drivers] are made every
six weeks or so direct to our wharehouse I found out today.

Fax me all the details at work 44 1480 431767 or just mail me, as for
the cost I really dont know it was just a guess - I only know how much
the cost to build and I cant tell you that!

Ambrose

Ambrose,

I happen to have come by a pair of Wharfdale Teesdale SP2's via Reading's
wonderful second hand shops - except one of the woofers' cones has seen
better days. The cone has become detached from the speaker casing/membrane
at it's peripherary - i.e. looks like someone has abused it using it for
guitar practice or something.

What's the best plan for getting it fixed ? I was going to phone Wharfdale
direct....but sounds like you may know better routes.  Ideally, I'd like to
get the pair checked out to see if any more damage has been done to them but
initially all I need is a fully functional second speaker.

With one woofer out, they sound great even with my tacky JVC midi system.
Having just moved house, to be fixed very shortly. I'd love to hear them
restored to their (presumably mid 1970's ?) former glory. Any
technical/historical information on them would be much appreciated.

All I need then is something half-respectable to drive them with...

Any info much appreciated.

Cheers,

John Gumb
john@talisker.demon.co.uk
daytime tel 0118-9351111, Ridgeway Systems & Software,
jgumb@ridgeway-sys.com

Ambrose wrote in message <36950DA6.155@virgin.net>...
>Dear BEN,
>
>If you like I will make some enquires for you, Id much rather you get a
>proper job done by Wharfedale. The best way to get to the original sound
>is to use the original parts. Wharfedale are quite big in Australia and
>I believe we control our own distribution network there. Shipments of
>products and service parts [generally complete drivers] are made every
>six weeks or so direct to our wharehouse I found out today.
>
>Fax me all the details at work 44 1480 431767 or just mail me, as for
>the cost I really dont know it was just a guess - I only know how much
>the cost to build and I cant tell you that!
>
>Ambrose