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Started by kauboy
Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:00
Wanted: Co-pilot for trip around Australia (FlacrOz 2000)
Author: kauboy
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:00
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2000 00:00
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My girlfriend Linda and I have had this idea of touring Australia in a private plane and we would like to hear if anybody out there would have suggestions, hints, tips & tricks, whatever to help us. We are also still looking for at least one, preferably experienced, pilot who would like to join us on this adventure. So, let us get a bit more into the details... ... like probably most people reading this newsgroup, we also love seeing different bits and pieces of our world. After extensive traveling in many countries by train, hitchhiking, driving cars and motorcycles, and riding a self-built tandem from Denmark to Switzerland, we would like to try something new. Currently we are both located in Perth. I am working as a software engineer and Linda is doing her Ph.D. in statistics at UWA. In my spare time, I take flying lessons and expect to have my PPL sometimes in May this year. WHEN ==== Linda has to be back in Denmark around mid August, so we thought we'd probably start our adventure no later than say late May. Our guess is that about two months should be enough to do a trip like this. WHAT TO SEE =========== It would probably be best to go south first and then head north as the winter approaches. Perth - Adelaide - Melbourne - Hobart - Canberra - Sydney - Brisbane - Cairns - Alice Springs - Darwin - Broome - Perth (plus a lot of stopovers and detours of course) is what we currently consider as the best route. THE PLANE ========= As members of the University Flying Club, we can hire a Grumman Tiger for about US$ 60 per hour (including fuel, insurance, etc.). COST ==== We have estimated to fly around 15K km in total. Assuming we would take the mentioned Grumman Tiger (or similar four-seater) with a cruise speed of about 125 knots which equals 230 km/hour, this could be done easily in about 100 flight hours. This would mean a total cost of about US$ 6000 for the hire of the plane. On top of that comes of course accommodation, food, entrance fees to NP's etc., extra transportation cost, and other expenses. I've talked to several people who have done similar trips in Australia and as a result the total estimated cost (still a wild guess, but probably on the high side) if we are four persons to share the plane would thus be about US$ 500 per week per person (a bit more if we're only three persons on board). Does that sound interesting or what!?! Like I said, we're still looking for somebody - preferably a somewhat experienced pilot - to join us. At least for the first half of the trip from Perth to Sydney (that would be in June). Regards, Klaus Bucka-Lassen kauboy@TheRaceTrack.com Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Before you buy.
Re: Wanted: Co-pilot for trip around Australia (FlacrOz 2000)
Author: John Eacott
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:00
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2000 00:00
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<kauboy@TheRaceTrack.com> wrote in message news:8b54ut$70g$1@nnrp1.deja.com... > My girlfriend Linda and I have had this idea of touring Australia in a > private plane and we would like to hear if anybody out there would have > suggestions, hints, tips & tricks, whatever to help us. We are also > still looking for at least one, preferably experienced, pilot who would > like to join us on this adventure. > snip > WHEN > ==== > Linda has to be back in Denmark around mid August, so we thought we'd > probably start our adventure no later than say late May. Our guess is > that about two months should be enough to do a trip like this. Not the best time to do such a trip, Our May equates to your November. Weather in the south will most likely be non VMC a lot of the time. Don't even _think_ of going down to Hobart at that time of the year. The trip on to Sydney will be through the highest part of the Great Divide, just when we're expecting the snow season to start. > WHAT TO SEE > =========== > It would probably be best to go south first and then head north as the > winter approaches. Perth - Adelaide - Melbourne - Hobart - Canberra - > Sydney - Brisbane - Cairns - Alice Springs - Darwin - Broome - Perth > (plus a lot of stopovers and detours of course) is what we currently > consider as the best route. Massive snip Why not post to aus.aviation, there are a lot of GA pilots who would be delighted to discuss this with you, -- John Eacott The Helicopter Service Australia www.helicopterservice.com.au
Re: Wanted: Co-pilot for trip around Australia (FlacrOz 2000)
Author: Klaus Bucka-Lassen
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:00
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:00
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John, [snip] > Not the best time to do such a trip, Our May equates to your November. > Weather in the south will most likely be non VMC a lot of the time. Don't > even _think_ of going down to Hobart at that time of the year. The trip on > to Sydney will be through the highest part of the Great Divide, just when > we're expecting the snow season to start. We do know that it is winter, but do you really think it is that bad? Some people in fact told us that winter would be more comfortable flying - calmer air and cool in the cockpit. We are aware that there will be days where we can't fly due to bad weather, but from the sound of what you are writing it sounds like that is not just going to be some days, but *most* days (and after all you seem to work for the Australian Helicopter Service, so I guess you know what you are talking about) :-(. What do you recon is the ratio of good vs. bad flying days in June/July? [snip] > Why not post to aus.aviation, there are a lot of GA pilots who would be > delighted to discuss this with you, I actually DID post this message about one and a half months ago on aus.aviation but unfortunately there hasn't been to much respons on it. Thanks, Klaus
Re: Wanted: Co-pilot for trip around Australia (FlacrOz 2000)
Author: John Eacott
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:00
Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2000 00:00
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Klaus, Flying up North will be better, but make sure you avoid the wet season. Down in the South East you are considering going through the Great Dividing Ranges, and the weather will get you 2 days out of 3, especially into Canberra, unless you take the long way round. Consider going north from Melbourne up to Albury, then Wagga Wagga and into Canberra from the north, weather permitting. Out of Canberra to Sydney can be a pain, since you will have to get across the Divide. Be prepared to follow the highway, and have a bolt hole ready. Of course, you may have a month's CAVOK, and I'll watch you fly on past with egg on my face.... Alternatively, look at going coastal and give Canberra a miss. It's basically a perfectly good sheep station ruined by politicians and their billion dollar playpen, and may well have snow & ice by June. If you're feeling adventurous, and the weather permits, a new airport will be open at Mt Hotham ski resort, 4300 ft AMSL, 1500 metre runway, but still you have to pick your weather. Going around the coast look at stopping at Merimbula or Mallacoota, both lovely spots. North from Sydney go coastal, make sure you drop into Coffs Harbour, best weather in Oz. From then on you'll be moving up the tropics, remember Queensland is a _big_ place, and Western Australia is even _bigger_. You'll have fun, but the south east could be challenging :-) -- John Eacott The Helicopter Service Australia www.helicopterservice.com.au Klaus Bucka-Lassen <klausb@cck.com.au> wrote in message news:38D98C2E.67EC715B@cck.com.au... > John, > > [snip] > > > Not the best time to do such a trip, Our May equates to your November. > > Weather in the south will most likely be non VMC a lot of the time. Don't > > even _think_ of going down to Hobart at that time of the year. The trip on > > to Sydney will be through the highest part of the Great Divide, just when > > we're expecting the snow season to start. > > We do know that it is winter, but do you really think it is that bad? Some > people in fact told us that winter would be more comfortable flying - calmer > air and cool in the cockpit. We are aware that there will be days where we > can't fly due to bad weather, but from the sound of what you are writing it > sounds like that is not just going to be some days, but *most* days (and after > all you seem to work for the Australian Helicopter Service, so I guess you know > what you are talking about) :-(. What do you recon is the ratio of good vs. bad > flying days in June/July? > > [snip] > > > Why not post to aus.aviation, there are a lot of GA pilots who would be > > delighted to discuss this with you, > > I actually DID post this message about one and a half months ago on > aus.aviation but unfortunately there hasn't been to much respons on it. > > Thanks, > > Klaus >
Re: Wanted: Co-pilot for trip around Australia (FlacrOz 2000)
Author: Darryl Gibbs
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 00:00
Date: Fri, 24 Mar 2000 00:00
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Hi there
I can't help you with to many tips for your flight, but if you are
stopping off in Wagga, drop me a line if you'd like a look at the RAAF Wagga
Museum and around the town. There is also a list of various air museums
around Australia located in the CNAPG website at
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7774/cnapg8australia.htm
These might be of interest to you
--
Darryl Gibbs
Check out the Clyde North Aeronautical Preservation Group website at
http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/7774/index.html.
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