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Started by JMS
Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:17
Complaint to Commonwealth Games
Author: JMS
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:17
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:17
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Letter to the Commonwealth Games Federation Dear Sirs I recently noticed on a news report that all of the cyclists in a cycling race were wearing cycle helmets. I understand that you have made a regulation that all cyclists in such events must wear cycle helmets. I fear that you may have made the wrong decision; there are some very good reasons for you to have a rethink of this policy: 1. Did you not know that cycle helmets cease to work effectively above a certain speed and that above that speed they give no protection whatsoever? 2. There is a very great danger that the helmets will cause over-heating of the cyclists' brains. This can certainly happen in the UK - so in the hot sun of India it will have much more of an effect. 3. By insisting that cyclists wear helmets - you are putting the riders at greater risk than if they did not wear a helmet. This is common knowledge in the UK 4. Wearing a cycle helmet will mean that the cyclists' head/helmet will much more likely hit another object than it would otherwise do so; this is due to the significant larger size of the head/helmet unit compared to just the head. 5. By wearing a helmet the riders are subjecting themselves to increased injury due to the very significant increased rotational forces as the head/helmet hits another object. 6. You are sending out completely the wrong message to young riders; If they see role models wearing helmets - then they will realise that cycling is quite dangerous - and they will be put off taking up the sport. I trust that you will review your policy. -- Per billion passenger kilometres Car KSI 18 Cycle KSI 541 Pedestrian 358 (KSI : Killed or Seriously Injured) Dft 2008 FIgures Who says cycling is safer than walking?
Re: Complaint to Commonwealth Games
Author: pshore
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:46
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:46
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On Oct 11, 2:17 pm, JMS <jmsmith2...@live.co.uk > wrote: > Letter to the Commonwealth Games Federation > > Dear Sirs > > I recently noticed on a news report that all of the cyclists in a > cycling race were wearing cycle helmets. > > I understand that you have made a regulation that all cyclists in such > events must wear cycle helmets. > > I fear that you may have made the wrong decision; there are some very > good reasons for you to have a rethink of this policy: > > 1. Did you not know that cycle helmets cease to work effectively > above a certain speed and that above that speed they give no > protection whatsoever? > > 2. There is a very great danger that the helmets will cause > over-heating of the cyclists' brains. This can certainly happen in > the UK - so in the hot sun of India it will have much more of an > effect. > > 3. By insisting that cyclists wear helmets - you are putting the > riders at greater risk than if they did not wear a helmet. This is > common knowledge in the UK > > 4. Wearing a cycle helmet will mean that the cyclists' head/helmet > will much more likely hit another object than it would otherwise do > so; this is due to the significant larger size of the head/helmet unit > compared to just the head. > > 5. By wearing a helmet the riders are subjecting themselves to > increased injury due to the very significant increased rotational > forces as the head/helmet hits another object. > > 6. You are sending out completely the wrong message to young riders; > If they see role models wearing helmets - then they will realise that > cycling is quite dangerous - and they will be put off taking up the > sport. > > I trust that you will review your policy. > > -- > > Per billion passenger kilometres > > Car KSI 18 > Cycle KSI 541 > Pedestrian 358 > > (KSI : Killed or Seriously Injured) > Dft 2008 FIgures > > Who says cycling is safer than walking? Is this a troll ? I am not sure so I will continue ...... Watch a few of these crashes from the Tour de France: http://deadspin.com/5586138/top-15-cringeworthy-tour-de-france-crashes I don't think it proves anything either way but it may help you make up your own mind. I guess you would have to ask the riders involved in the crashes if they prefer to wear helmets since their crash. Personally, I mostly don't on the road when solo, but would definitely in a group especially if in a tight bunch. Offroad cycling I always wear one. For me, the major decision factor is about likelihood of crashing and secondly about the potential of the helmet to change the outcome. Start your flame throwers ... now! :-) Phil.
Re: Complaint to Commonwealth Games
Author: mileburner
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:52
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:52
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pshore wrote: > On Oct 11, 2:17 pm, JMS <jmsmith2...@live.co.uk > wrote: >> Letter to the Commonwealth Games Federation >> >> Dear Sirs >> > Is this a troll ? I am not sure so I will continue ...... If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, swims like a duck, looks like a duck. Then it probably *is* a duck.
Re: Complaint to Commonwealth Games
Author: The Medway Handyman
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:26
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:26
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mileburner wrote: > pshore wrote: >> On Oct 11, 2:17 pm, JMS <jmsmith2...@live.co.uk > wrote: >>> Letter to the Commonwealth Games Federation >>> >>> Dear Sirs >>> > >> Is this a troll ? I am not sure so I will continue ...... > > If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, swims like a duck, looks > like a duck. > > Then it probably *is* a duck. On the other hand, if it cycles like a twat, talks like an idiot, posts like a fool... Its almost certainly molewanker. -- Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike, like a skateboard, is a kid's toy, not a viable form of transport.
Re: Complaint to Commonwealth Games
Author: Kev Bishop
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:27
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:27
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"mileburner" <mileburner@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:i9208n$c9l$1@news.eternal-september.org... > pshore wrote: >> On Oct 11, 2:17 pm, JMS <jmsmith2...@live.co.uk > wrote: >>> Letter to the Commonwealth Games Federation >>> >>> Dear Sirs >>> > >> Is this a troll ? I am not sure so I will continue ...... > > If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, swims like a duck, looks like > a duck. > > Then it probably *is* a duck. Or a very very small swan ;)
Re: Complaint to Commonwealth Games
Author: Jonathan Anderson
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:34
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:34
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On 12/10/2010 13:46, pshore wrote: > Is this a troll ? I am not sure so I will continue ...... Yes, it is a troll. You fell for it. Cheers Jon
Re: Complaint to Commonwealth Games
Author: pshore
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:27
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:27
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On Oct 12, 11:34 pm, Jonathan Anderson <j...@durge.org> wrote: > On 12/10/2010 13:46, pshore wrote: > > > Is this a troll ? I am not sure so I will continue ...... > > Yes, it is a troll. > > You fell for it. > > Cheers > Jon Well, I kind of knew it was but it did give me the opportunity to add something new to a cam.transport thread - the opinion that someone can make their own mind up.
Re: Complaint to Commonwealth Games
Author: Brian Watson
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:51
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:51
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"JMS" <jmsmith2010@live.co.uk > wrote in message news:hi26b6pkntnc8kbde3b87u1jof43r9i76h@4ax.com... > > Letter to the Commonwealth Games Federation > > > > Dear Sirs > > I recently noticed on a news report that all of the cyclists in a > cycling race were wearing cycle helmets. > > I understand that you have made a regulation that all cyclists in such > events must wear cycle helmets. > > I fear that you may have made the wrong decision; there are some very > good reasons for you to have a rethink of this policy: <cut reasons> Ah, but cyclists look SO amusing with those funny little hats perched on top of their heads. Don't spoil every one else's fun! -- Brian "Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman." www.imagebus.co.uk/shop
Re: Complaint to Commonwealth Games
Author: Derek C
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:07
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:07
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On Oct 11, 2:17 pm, JMS <jmsmith2...@live.co.uk > wrote: > Letter to the Commonwealth Games Federation > > Dear Sirs > > I recently noticed on a news report that all of the cyclists in a > cycling race were wearing cycle helmets. > > I understand that you have made a regulation that all cyclists in such > events must wear cycle helmets. > > I fear that you may have made the wrong decision; there are some very > good reasons for you to have a rethink of this policy: > > 1. Did you not know that cycle helmets cease to work effectively > above a certain speed and that above that speed they give no > protection whatsoever? > > 2. There is a very great danger that the helmets will cause > over-heating of the cyclists' brains. This can certainly happen in > the UK - so in the hot sun of India it will have much more of an > effect. > > 3. By insisting that cyclists wear helmets - you are putting the > riders at greater risk than if they did not wear a helmet. This is > common knowledge in the UK > > 4. Wearing a cycle helmet will mean that the cyclists' head/helmet > will much more likely hit another object than it would otherwise do > so; this is due to the significant larger size of the head/helmet unit > compared to just the head. > > 5. By wearing a helmet the riders are subjecting themselves to > increased injury due to the very significant increased rotational > forces as the head/helmet hits another object. > > 6. You are sending out completely the wrong message to young riders; > If they see role models wearing helmets - then they will realise that > cycling is quite dangerous - and they will be put off taking up the > sport. > > I trust that you will review your policy. > > -- > > Per billion passenger kilometres > > Car KSI 18 > Cycle KSI 541 > Pedestrian 358 > > (KSI : Killed or Seriously Injured) > Dft 2008 FIgures > > Who says cycling is safer than walking? Careful Judith. Most of the psycholists are too thick to understand sarcasm and will think you are being serious! lol, Derek
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