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9 total messages Started by JMS Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:17
Complaint to Commonwealth Games
#925
Author: JMS
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 13:17
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Letter to the Commonwealth Games Federation



Dear Sirs

I recently noticed on a news report  that all of the cyclists in a
cycling race were wearing cycle helmets.

I understand that you have made a regulation that all cyclists in such
events must wear cycle helmets.

I fear that you may have made the wrong decision; there are some very
good reasons for you to have a rethink of this policy:


1.  Did you not know that cycle helmets cease to work effectively
above a certain speed and that above that speed they give no
protection whatsoever?

2. There is a very great danger that the helmets will cause
over-heating of the cyclists' brains.  This can certainly happen in
the UK - so in the hot sun of India it will have much more of an
effect.

3. By insisting that cyclists wear helmets - you are putting the
riders at greater risk than if they did not wear a helmet.  This is
common knowledge in the UK

4. Wearing a cycle helmet will mean that the cyclists' head/helmet
will much more likely hit another object than it would otherwise do
so; this is due to the significant larger size of the head/helmet unit
compared to just the head.

5.  By wearing a helmet the riders are subjecting themselves to
increased injury due to the very significant increased rotational
forces as the head/helmet hits another object.

6.  You are sending out completely the wrong message to young riders;
If they see role models wearing helmets - then they will realise that
cycling is quite dangerous - and they will be put off taking up the
sport.


I trust that you will review your policy.


--     

Per billion passenger kilometres

Car 	KSI 	18
Cycle 	KSI	541
Pedestrian 	358

(KSI : Killed or Seriously Injured)
Dft 2008 FIgures

Who says cycling is safer than walking?
Re: Complaint to Commonwealth Games
#916
Author: pshore
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 12:46
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On Oct 11, 2:17 pm, JMS <jmsmith2...@live.co.uk > wrote:
> Letter to the Commonwealth Games Federation
>
> Dear Sirs
>
> I recently noticed on a news report  that all of the cyclists in a
> cycling race were wearing cycle helmets.
>
> I understand that you have made a regulation that all cyclists in such
> events must wear cycle helmets.
>
> I fear that you may have made the wrong decision; there are some very
> good reasons for you to have a rethink of this policy:
>
> 1.  Did you not know that cycle helmets cease to work effectively
> above a certain speed and that above that speed they give no
> protection whatsoever?
>
> 2. There is a very great danger that the helmets will cause
> over-heating of the cyclists' brains.  This can certainly happen in
> the UK - so in the hot sun of India it will have much more of an
> effect.
>
> 3. By insisting that cyclists wear helmets - you are putting the
> riders at greater risk than if they did not wear a helmet.  This is
> common knowledge in the UK
>
> 4. Wearing a cycle helmet will mean that the cyclists' head/helmet
> will much more likely hit another object than it would otherwise do
> so; this is due to the significant larger size of the head/helmet unit
> compared to just the head.
>
> 5.  By wearing a helmet the riders are subjecting themselves to
> increased injury due to the very significant increased rotational
> forces as the head/helmet hits another object.
>
> 6.  You are sending out completely the wrong message to young riders;
> If they see role models wearing helmets - then they will realise that
> cycling is quite dangerous - and they will be put off taking up the
> sport.
>
> I trust that you will review your policy.
>
> --    
>
> Per billion passenger kilometres
>
> Car     KSI     18
> Cycle   KSI     541
> Pedestrian      358
>
> (KSI : Killed or Seriously Injured)
> Dft 2008 FIgures
>
> Who says cycling is safer than walking?


Is this a troll ?  I am not sure so I will continue ......

Watch a few of these crashes from the Tour de France:
  http://deadspin.com/5586138/top-15-cringeworthy-tour-de-france-crashes

I don't think it proves anything either way but it may help you make
up your own mind.   I guess you would have to ask the riders involved
in the crashes if they prefer to wear helmets since their crash.

Personally, I mostly don't on the road when solo, but would definitely
in a group especially if in a tight bunch.  Offroad cycling I always
wear one.  For me, the major decision factor is about likelihood of
crashing and secondly about the potential of the helmet to change the
outcome.

Start your flame throwers ... now!  :-)

Phil.
Re: Complaint to Commonwealth Games
#918
Author: mileburner
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 15:52
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pshore wrote:
> On Oct 11, 2:17 pm, JMS <jmsmith2...@live.co.uk > wrote:
>> Letter to the Commonwealth Games Federation
>>
>> Dear Sirs
>>

> Is this a troll ?  I am not sure so I will continue ......

If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, swims like a duck, looks like a 
duck.

Then it probably *is* a duck. 
Re: Complaint to Commonwealth Games
#920
Author: The Medway Handyman
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 18:26
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mileburner wrote:
> pshore wrote:
>> On Oct 11, 2:17 pm, JMS <jmsmith2...@live.co.uk > wrote:
>>> Letter to the Commonwealth Games Federation
>>>
>>> Dear Sirs
>>>
>
>> Is this a troll ?  I am not sure so I will continue ......
>
> If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, swims like a duck, looks
> like a duck.
>
> Then it probably *is* a duck.

On the other hand, if it cycles like a twat, talks like an idiot, posts like 
a fool...

Its almost certainly molewanker.


-- 
Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike, like a skateboard, is 
a kid's toy, not a viable form of transport. 
Re: Complaint to Commonwealth Games
#921
Author: Kev Bishop
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:27
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"mileburner" <mileburner@btinternet.com> wrote in message 
news:i9208n$c9l$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> pshore wrote:
>> On Oct 11, 2:17 pm, JMS <jmsmith2...@live.co.uk > wrote:
>>> Letter to the Commonwealth Games Federation
>>>
>>> Dear Sirs
>>>
>
>> Is this a troll ?  I am not sure so I will continue ......
>
> If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, swims like a duck, looks like 
> a duck.
>
> Then it probably *is* a duck.

Or a very very small swan ;) 
Re: Complaint to Commonwealth Games
#922
Author: Jonathan Anderson
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:34
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On 12/10/2010 13:46, pshore wrote:
> Is this a troll ?  I am not sure so I will continue ......

Yes, it is a troll.

You fell for it.

Cheers
Jon
Re: Complaint to Commonwealth Games
#915
Author: pshore
Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:27
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On Oct 12, 11:34 pm, Jonathan Anderson <j...@durge.org> wrote:
> On 12/10/2010 13:46, pshore wrote:
>
> > Is this a troll ?  I am not sure so I will continue ......
>
> Yes, it is a troll.
>
> You fell for it.
>
> Cheers
> Jon


Well, I kind of knew it was but it did give me the opportunity to add
something new to a cam.transport thread - the opinion that someone can
make their own mind up.
Re: Complaint to Commonwealth Games
#913
Author: Brian Watson
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 08:51
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"JMS" <jmsmith2010@live.co.uk > wrote in message 
news:hi26b6pkntnc8kbde3b87u1jof43r9i76h@4ax.com...
>
> Letter to the Commonwealth Games Federation
>
>
>
> Dear Sirs
>
> I recently noticed on a news report  that all of the cyclists in a
> cycling race were wearing cycle helmets.
>
> I understand that you have made a regulation that all cyclists in such
> events must wear cycle helmets.
>
> I fear that you may have made the wrong decision; there are some very
> good reasons for you to have a rethink of this policy:

<cut reasons>

Ah, but cyclists look SO amusing with those funny little hats perched on top 
of their heads.

Don't spoil every one else's fun!

-- 
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."
www.imagebus.co.uk/shop 
Re: Complaint to Commonwealth Games
#914
Author: Derek C
Date: Thu, 14 Oct 2010 09:07
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On Oct 11, 2:17 pm, JMS <jmsmith2...@live.co.uk > wrote:
> Letter to the Commonwealth Games Federation
>
> Dear Sirs
>
> I recently noticed on a news report  that all of the cyclists in a
> cycling race were wearing cycle helmets.
>
> I understand that you have made a regulation that all cyclists in such
> events must wear cycle helmets.
>
> I fear that you may have made the wrong decision; there are some very
> good reasons for you to have a rethink of this policy:
>
> 1.  Did you not know that cycle helmets cease to work effectively
> above a certain speed and that above that speed they give no
> protection whatsoever?
>
> 2. There is a very great danger that the helmets will cause
> over-heating of the cyclists' brains.  This can certainly happen in
> the UK - so in the hot sun of India it will have much more of an
> effect.
>
> 3. By insisting that cyclists wear helmets - you are putting the
> riders at greater risk than if they did not wear a helmet.  This is
> common knowledge in the UK
>
> 4. Wearing a cycle helmet will mean that the cyclists' head/helmet
> will much more likely hit another object than it would otherwise do
> so; this is due to the significant larger size of the head/helmet unit
> compared to just the head.
>
> 5.  By wearing a helmet the riders are subjecting themselves to
> increased injury due to the very significant increased rotational
> forces as the head/helmet hits another object.
>
> 6.  You are sending out completely the wrong message to young riders;
> If they see role models wearing helmets - then they will realise that
> cycling is quite dangerous - and they will be put off taking up the
> sport.
>
> I trust that you will review your policy.
>
> --    
>
> Per billion passenger kilometres
>
> Car     KSI     18
> Cycle   KSI     541
> Pedestrian      358
>
> (KSI : Killed or Seriously Injured)
> Dft 2008 FIgures
>
> Who says cycling is safer than walking?

Careful Judith.  Most of the psycholists are too thick to understand
sarcasm and will think you are being serious!

lol,
Derek
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