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Article #651Re: Advice needed
From: Pete �(���)�
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:53
Date: Thu, 22 Mar 2007 21:53
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On Thu, 22 Mar 2007 20:47:03 GMT, "DVH" <dvh@vhvhvhvh.com> wrote:
>I recently saw a medium-sized waterfowl.
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>It was black.
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>Do you think it might have been a grebe? Is there an authoritative book
>about grebes I should consult to learn more?
>
LOL good question ;-)
Konter without doubt.
Grebes of Our World (Handbooks of the Birds of the World)
Synopsis
Andre Konter was born in Luxembourg. As an ornithologist with a
passion for grebes and their conservation, he has travelled the five
continents with the aim of observing and photographing all of the
grebe species still in existence. This book tells the story of how his
keen interest in these birds developed upon seeing a pair of Great
Crested Grebes in a lake near his home in the early 1990s and includes
accounts of his observations. These include the time he discovered a
colony of over 100 Hooded Grebe nests in the remote Argentine
Patagonia, the experience of seeing one of the few remaining
Madagascar Grebes (a threatened species which is endemic to
Madagascar), the time he sighted the New Zealand Grebe (which can only
be found on North Island, New Zealand), and his observations of the
last remaining, critically threatened Junin Flightless Grebes. Also
included are black and white illustrations of all of the species by
Michael Braum, as well as 85 photos of 19 of the 22 species that still
exist, 76 which were taken by the author and are being published here
for the first time. The main objective of this book is to contribute
to the conservation of grebes by donating the majority of the proceeds
to renowned specialist John Fjeldsa, Director of the Natural History
Museum of Copenhagen, for grebe research and conservation projects.
BEWARE OF the notorious copy by Malcolm Ogilvie, sacked from the RSPB
and Usenet stalker.
It's all on Google http://tinyurl.com/339858
><c...@oil.com> wrote:
>>On Wed, 09 Aug 2006 17:52:23 +0100, ��� <icec...@isis232.com> wrote:
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>>>Malcolm Ogilvie of Malc...@indaal.demon.co.uk on the suggestion he
>>>copied Konters book.
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>>>" You are making yourself look foolish. The book on Grebes by Andre
>>>Konter that was published in 2001 was entitled 'Grebes of OUR World'.
>>>My book, published only this month, is entitled 'Grebes of THE World',
>>>and as such is entirely different. The similarity of the front covers
>>>is quite coincidental. My book IS the first ever devoted to Grebes.
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>>>Malcolm Ogilivie
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>>Tee hee!
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>>It's all there on Google. I remember it well.
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>Who could forget!
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>Malcolm Ogilvie of Malc...@indaal.demon.co.uk on the suggestion he
>copied Konters book.
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>" You are making yourself look foolish. The book on Grebes by Andre
>Konter that was published in 2001 was entitled 'Grebes of OUR World'.
>My book, published only this month, is entitled 'Grebes of THE World',
>and as such is entirely different. The similarity of the front covers
>is quite coincidental. My book IS the first ever devoted to Grebes.
>
>
>Malcolm Ogilivie."
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>KONTER (Andre) - Grebes of our World. Visiting all Species on Five
>Continents - 2001, 8vo. 187pp. Colour photographs, line drawings. A
>description of the 22 species of grebes, their natural history, ecology
>and behaviour.
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>Grebes of the World
>Malcolm Ogilvie
>The book starts with an authoritative introduction on the origin,
>evolution, distribution, physiology and behaviour of grebes, followed by
>accounts of each of the 22 species
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>
>>Malcolm it looks as though Konter might dispute that statement!
>>Rob
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>"Yes, indeed, what I said was wrong and I apologise to Andre Konter,
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>Malcolm Ogilvie"
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>>>>The error I made was in a chatty piece about the actual writing of the
>>>>book which I posted to a non-birdwatching newsgroup
>>>> M Ogilvie
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>>>You clearly and explicitly stated that yours was the first book on the
>>>subject, in the full knowledge that the topic had recently been
>>>covered very thoroughly in Konter's book.
>>>The facts speak for themselves. You are a liar who only had the grace
>>>to own up when you had been found out - you even persisted in giving
>>>the impression that you were the first to write it *after* I had drawn
>>>attention to your untruth. Your apology comes a little late.
>>>You do yourself no credit in introducing other, wholly irrelevant
>>>matters in order to deflect criticism from your behaviour. Shame on
>>>you.
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>
>>>Paul
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Avoid the rush at the last judgement. Be converted now instead!
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