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Article #30Re: Substation spacing - 3rd rail
From: Angus Bryant
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:12
Date: Thu, 12 Sep 2002 08:12
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"Richard Catlow" <RBCatlow@aol.com> wrote in message news:d3979d5f.0209111108.4634cd7@posting.google.com... > Tony Sayer asked > > > > Another very interesting bit of reading. Can you explain why the tunnel > > would be significant please?. Is it to do with wind resistance perhaps. > > > The rolling resistance of a vehicle is governed by a number of factors > called Davies coefficients in the form a+bv+cv^2 > > Where a= static resistance of train to motion i.e. stiction > b= rotary intertia > c= aerodynamic drag > v= velocity > > Thus a train in a tunnel has a higher c element of the equation as the > turbulent air flow of the train interacts with the tunnel. The actual > drag in a tunnel depends upon bore size, whether there is oncoming > traffic in the same bore, speed, uniformity and smoothness of the > tunnel bore surface, tunnel length, whether there are vents and their > physical location etc. It all makes an interesting computational fluid > dynamics problem, even more so if you have to control smoke flows as > well. I spent a little time working for the CFD guru who looked at > these problems for the Channel Tunnel - very absorbing it was too. I know it's nothing to do with 3rd rail, but does any modern stock (air-con, post-privatisation) have valves to shut off the pressure when the train goes into a tunnel? I seem to remember that Eurostar does, but does anything like the Pendolino/Voyager/etc? Angus
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