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Article #32Re: Substation spacing - 3rd rail
From: Richard Catlow
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:45
Date: Tue, 10 Sep 2002 19:45
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David Winter asked: > With 3rd rail systems, what is the spacing between substation (ie range of > one substation). > > This will vary with system and load. > > My question is looking at 3 min frequency, 6-car full size single deck > trains, with a 750v nominal supply with either medium (+/- 100v) or wide > tolerance (+/- 200v). > > I know there's some well versed electrical engineering types who lurk > hereabouts - so some indicative figures would be helpful noting that each > situation requires its own assessment. > > Also, what's the range of nominal voltages used with guarded types of side > contact 3rd rail systems (eg Docklands). I know that 1200v DC was used near > Manchester - has any system been implemented with higher DC or AC voltages > in a 3rd rail supply? > Well David, there are many more variables that require assessment to answer your question with certainty, these include: The traction characteristics of the train(s) involved The stopping pattern Geographical and topological data including gradients, curvature, tunnels etc. Signalling system used The conductivity of the conductor and running rails and so on........... In trying to answer your question, I will assume that: a) It is a metro type system with a maximum speed of 100km/h b) Accelleration rate of train is 0.8m/s/s Service braking rate is also 0.8m/s/s c) Weight of train is 200 tonnes tare, max line current is 3000A@750V d.c d) Station spacing is 3000m e) No significant civil engineering features such as severe gradients, curves or operation within tunnels f) Regen braking is not used g) Conventional 3 aspect signalling is used h) Trains use three phase drive with broadly constant power characteristic i) Auxiliary load is 240kW per 6 car train j) Running rails are UIC60, grade 600 (non hardened rails) = 35milliohms per km k) Conductor rail is 74kg/m grade 600, = 27 milliohms per km. So, let's work this through on a very rough basis: Train accellerates at 0.8m/s/s (average) and thus takes 34 seconds to reach 27.7m/s (100km/h). During this time, the train will draw 3000A continuously.At 750V, this equates to 2.25MW. Drawing from my file of traction characteristics, a very similar train to this then requires 0.9MW to balance the losses travelling at 27.7ms speed. This equates to 1200A at 750V. Likewise, the train's service braking rate is the same and will take 34 seconds to decellerate to a stand at the next station. Ignoring the integration required to cater for the accelleration and decelleration phases of the journey, and using approximation, the journey time from station to station will take about 140 seconds of which 106 seconds will be under power (34 at 3000A and 72 at 1200A). Let's face it, no railway ever runs properly all of the time (least of which the one I work for) and the electrification engineer would design this metro type system to cater for trains operating one after the other at the signal spacing, which I am assuming will be 1000m (3 block sections between stations). So, with the railway operating for a period with trains backed up at every signal, between two stations, we could have 2 trains accellerating at their maximum rate for short periods, before they have to brake for the next signal. This could lead to a peak current of 6000A per road. Again, drawing from my files, whilst it is allowable under Euronorm standards to allow for the line voltage to drop to 450V d.c from the nominal 750V, most current designs of train would suffer from losing time and possibly some auxiliaries such as air conditioning, if they didn't receive 550V, so we will use that as the lowest allowable limit. For each km of running and conductor rail, and assuming all 4 running rails are bonded together in parallel, the loop resistance is 35.75milliohms. Thus for a permissible voltage drop of 200V, at 6000A, the maximum single end feeding resistance would be 33.3 milliohms (200/6000) or about 930m. DC electrification systems feed from both ends, so this distance would be doubled to 1860m. If a track parallelling hut were introduced at the electrical mid point (it has the effect of parallelling the positive feeds and thus reducing their apparent resistance looking from the train), this could be stretched to 2200m. Further allowances based on diversity, driving technique and also the engineers asking the commercial people whether they really require full train performance when the trains are approaching red signals would all affect the spacing considerations. So, the strictly correct answer to your question, based on the gargantuan assumptions I state is 1860m. However, real life ain't like that and other considerations such as differing train types, wear allowances, availability of land for substations, allowable performance under perturbed conditions, driving techniques, junctions, permissive signalling and so on and so on, would affect the spacing decisions. When the spacings get long, a trade off needs to be made between the size and ratings of the equipment in the substations and their spacing (.e. few large substations versus lots of small ones), to get an economic solution. No voltage above 1200V d.c. has been used for conductor rail installations on any large scale within Europe. DB has an extensive network of such lines around Hamburg and BR used to have this system for Manchester to Bury. This voltage is no longer standard within Europe. All 1200V d.c systems use insulated shrouds around the rail and either side or bottom contact. 750V d.c. systems in the UK are not insulated with the exception of the Docklands system. Hope this answers your question. Richard Catlow
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