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Article #34Re: Substation spacing - 3rd rail
From: Angus Bryant
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:27
Date: Wed, 11 Sep 2002 09:27
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tony sayer wrote: > In article <d3979d5f.0209101145.1a1d5a7f@posting.google.com>, Richard > Catlow <RBCatlow@aol.com> writes > >David Winter asked: > > > >> With 3rd rail systems, what is the spacing between substation (ie range of > >> one substation). > >> > >> This will vary with system and load. > >> > >> My question is looking at 3 min frequency, 6-car full size single deck > >> trains, with a 750v nominal supply with either medium (+/- 100v) or wide > >> tolerance (+/- 200v). > >> > >> I know there's some well versed electrical engineering types who lurk > >> hereabouts - so some indicative figures would be helpful noting that each > >> situation requires its own assessment. > >> > >> Also, what's the range of nominal voltages used with guarded types of side > >> contact 3rd rail systems (eg Docklands). I know that 1200v DC was used near > >> Manchester - has any system been implemented with higher DC or AC voltages > >> in a 3rd rail supply? > >> > >Well David, there are many more variables that require assessment to > >answer your question with certainty, these include: > > > >The traction characteristics of the train(s) involved > >The stopping pattern > >Geographical and topological data including gradients, curvature, > >tunnels etc. > > <snipped a bit> > > Another very interesting bit of reading. Can you explain why the tunnel > would be significant please?. Is it to do with wind resistance perhaps. > > Very surprised that the rail resistance is so low as you quoted, still > never actually measured a bit..... I seem to remember that those installed on the Jubilee Line were aluminium (it's pretty easy to see), which has a greatly reduced resistance - about 30 times lower than steel I think. Are these rails solid aluminium alloy, or are they steel with an aluminium outer layer? Angus
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