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6 total messages Started by Gisle Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:23
Cruising catamaran owners
#2
Author: Gisle
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 21:23
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Hi cruisers

I have a Fountaine Pajot Belize 43 catamaran and would like to discuss
several subjects with other catamaran owners.  I'm bound for a
circumnavigation with it and would like to hear about your cruising
experiences.

It would be great if we could meet at www.cruisersforum.com

See you there.

Happy cruising,
Gisle
Re: Cruising catamaran owners
#3
Author: Simon Brooke
Date: Wed, 19 Mar 2003 22:05
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"Gisle" <GH-news@w-d.no> writes:

> Hi cruisers
> 
> I have a Fountaine Pajot Belize 43 catamaran and would like to discuss
> several subjects with other catamaran owners.  I'm bound for a
> circumnavigation with it and would like to hear about your cruising
> experiences.

There are good active existing multihull forums online at
<URL: http://www.themultihull.com/forum/active.asp > and at
<URL: http://www.steamradio.com/mailman/listinfo/multihulls >

-- 
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/

			;; in faecibus sapiens rheum propagabit
Re: Cruising catamaran owners
#4
Author: Gisle
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 09:33
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Thanks Simon, but I was looking for well-arranged boards on bluewater
cruising.  For the cruising sailor going on longer journeys than daytrips.

I think www.cruisersforum.com is well arranged and easy to find info in, but
it's quite new and not known to the crowds yet - but it will be.

I'm fed up by forums looking like newsgroups on usenet...

Gisle

"Simon Brooke" <simon@jasmine.org.uk> skrev i melding
news:87of47ghec.fsf@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk...
> "Gisle" <GH-news@w-d.no> writes:
>
> > Hi cruisers
> >
> > I have a Fountaine Pajot Belize 43 catamaran and would like to discuss
> > several subjects with other catamaran owners.  I'm bound for a
> > circumnavigation with it and would like to hear about your cruising
> > experiences.
>
> There are good active existing multihull forums online at
> <URL: http://www.themultihull.com/forum/active.asp > and at
> <URL: http://www.steamradio.com/mailman/listinfo/multihulls >
>
> --
> simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
>
> ;; in faecibus sapiens rheum propagabit
Re: Cruising catamaran owners
#5
Author: Simon Brooke
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 10:35
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"Gisle" <GH-news@w-d.no> writes:

> Thanks Simon, but I was looking for well-arranged boards on bluewater
> cruising.  For the cruising sailor going on longer journeys than daytrips.
> 
> I think www.cruisersforum.com is well arranged and easy to find info in, but
> it's quite new and not known to the crowds yet - but it will be.
> 
> I'm fed up by forums looking like newsgroups on usenet...

Two answers to that: one is Usenet and mailing lists work well, and
I've yet to see a Web forum that does. Secondly and much more
importantly, there are a limited number of knowlegeable multihull people
active on the Net. If you were to split them up into a number of small
groups hanging out on different forums then the amount of expertise
available on any one would be very limited. The great benefit of the
Net is that it allows communities of interest to foregather from
across the globe; to then fragment those communities again seems to me
madness.

However, the Net evolves. If you genuinely build a better forum system
then people will use it, and over time the community will congregate
around your system.

There is one point I'd make, however. I used to be an active member
(and enthusiastic promoter) of Scott Brown's forum at 
<URL: http://www.themultihull.com/forum/active.asp >; I no longer use
it. Why not? Because, fundamentally, he's doing what you want to do -
he's trying to create a little world that he controls. After twice
having my posting rights suspended for posting links to the answers to
questions people were asking elsewhere on the Net (including this
group) I decided it wasn't worth putting effort into any more.

The Net works by linking, and it works by openness. If you want to try
to control what people can do in your little bit of the Net, sooner or
later they'll go elsewhere.

-- 
simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
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Re: Cruising catamaran owners
#6
Author: Gisle
Date: Thu, 20 Mar 2003 14:48
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Thanks for the advice Simon.  I fully agree with you.  I value freedom of
speach and freedom in general a lot.  I started www.cruisersforum.com
because I thought and still think that it's hard to find info on
'newsgroup-like' forums - especially old postings that may still be
relevant.  It's non-commercial and free and you can say whatever you like as
long as it's legal.  But of course the members of the board would prefer
that you post your messages in the relevant forum.

On the Usenet sailing-related newsgroups most of the headlines are about the
war in Irak.  Well, it's important matters, but I think those wanting to
discuss that should do it somewhere else.  On www.cruisersforum.com it would
fit in the Non-Cruising related forum.

Happy cruising,
Gisle Hegstad
www.cruisersforum.com


"Simon Brooke" <simon@jasmine.org.uk> skrev i melding
news:87adfqgwx0.fsf@gododdin.internal.jasmine.org.uk...
> "Gisle" <GH-news@w-d.no> writes:
>
> > Thanks Simon, but I was looking for well-arranged boards on bluewater
> > cruising.  For the cruising sailor going on longer journeys than
daytrips.
> >
> > I think www.cruisersforum.com is well arranged and easy to find info in,
but
> > it's quite new and not known to the crowds yet - but it will be.
> >
> > I'm fed up by forums looking like newsgroups on usenet...
>
> Two answers to that: one is Usenet and mailing lists work well, and
> I've yet to see a Web forum that does. Secondly and much more
> importantly, there are a limited number of knowlegeable multihull people
> active on the Net. If you were to split them up into a number of small
> groups hanging out on different forums then the amount of expertise
> available on any one would be very limited. The great benefit of the
> Net is that it allows communities of interest to foregather from
> across the globe; to then fragment those communities again seems to me
> madness.
>
> However, the Net evolves. If you genuinely build a better forum system
> then people will use it, and over time the community will congregate
> around your system.
>
> There is one point I'd make, however. I used to be an active member
> (and enthusiastic promoter) of Scott Brown's forum at
> <URL: http://www.themultihull.com/forum/active.asp >; I no longer use
> it. Why not? Because, fundamentally, he's doing what you want to do -
> he's trying to create a little world that he controls. After twice
> having my posting rights suspended for posting links to the answers to
> questions people were asking elsewhere on the Net (including this
> group) I decided it wasn't worth putting effort into any more.
>
> The Net works by linking, and it works by openness. If you want to try
> to control what people can do in your little bit of the Net, sooner or
> later they'll go elsewhere.
>
> --
> simon@jasmine.org.uk (Simon Brooke) http://www.jasmine.org.uk/~simon/
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Re: Cruising catamaran owners
#7
Author: Bruce Fountain
Date: Fri, 21 Mar 2003 02:03
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"Gisle" <GH-news@w-d.no> wrote in message news:<dxkea.42208$Rc7.622145@news2.e.nsc.no>...
> Thanks for the advice Simon.  I fully agree with you.  I value freedom of
> speach and freedom in general a lot.  I started www.cruisersforum.com
> because I thought and still think that it's hard to find info on
> 'newsgroup-like' forums - especially old postings that may still be
> relevant.  It's non-commercial and free and you can say whatever you like as
> long as it's legal.  But of course the members of the board would prefer
> that you post your messages in the relevant forum.

As far as finding info on the newsgroups: groups.google.com has a
very good search engine that will let you hunt through every usenet
posting back to about 1996/97 (these are the old dejanews archives).

You neglected to mention that you had an interest in this
webforum when you posted your invitation. That is pretty bad
manners.

In addition, your cross-posting to aus.sport.sailing is in
violation of the charter for this newsgroup. That is very bad
manners.

Bruce Fountain
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