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Whilst licking their paws in alt.animals.cat on  Sun, 08 Oct 2000
18:49:07 GMT, jennyem@hotmail.com (Jennifer) purred the following:

:)Ahemmmmm, not to start up another row, but it would be interesting to
:)know if these cats of 20 and above are indoor or outdoor.   Just a
:)thought.

Nan's 22 year old was indoors at night (stictly) and outdoors during
the day.  She passed away due to kidney failure BTW, not an accident
or infection.

See, even when something doesn't support my own belief I can still be
honest about it :)


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Dedicated to my Lexy, Toby, Chia, Meghie and Candi the Angel kitties..

In article <39e0cecf.64148740@news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
  jennyem@hotmail.com (Jennifer) wrote:
> On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 14:09:34 -0500, Rechelle Blair
> <RG_Blair@swbell.net> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >Jennifer wrote:
> >
> >> On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 13:37:03 -0500, Rechelle Blair
> >> <RG_Blair@swbell.net> wrote:
> >>
> >> >Not sure about the UK's oldest cat, but I believe the genius book
of
> >> >world records states the oldest cat as being either 34 or 35.
> >> >
> >> Ahemmmmm, not to start up another row, but it would be interesting
to
> >> know if these cats of 20 and above are indoor or outdoor.   Just a
> >> thought.
> >
> >We have a cat that is about to turn 18.  For the first 13 years of
her
> >life she was an indoor/outdoor cat (she's my husband's cat).  The
last 5
> >years, she's decided she prefers to be indoors only, she just one day
> >stopped going outside.  As for others, I couldn't tell you.
> >
> I can understand that in an older cat.   Bit like older people really
> - they get too stiff, tired and uninterested.

Apathy is a sign of Intelligence rather than age.

Ask your cat.


--
Oracle of the Mighty (Children of the Voice)


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Before you buy.

Oldest Cat: The oldest reliably recorded cat was a female tabby called Ma,
Ma lived to be 34 years old and died on November 5th 1957 (United Kingdom).

For more records see:
http://www.moggies.co.uk/html/records.html

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Remove "zzzz" to reply to sender.

On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 19:50:30 GMT, jennyem@hotmail.com (Jennifer)
wrote:

^ On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 19:38:07 GMT, sparge@globalnet.co.uk (Andy Spragg)
^ wrote:

^ >^ book, or is it purely an American thing?

^ >It's a sort of MENSA version. Only allowed to buy it if you've got an
^ >IQ greater than 150. Doesn't sound like you're in with much of a
^ >chance.

^ Check the membership list.

Sounds like you should do the honourable thing then.

Andy

--
sparge at globalnet point co point uk

"There's no better way to get to know a man's character
 than to get him tight and see how he talks then"
 Nevil Shute, "So disdained"

In article <39E0C66E.DE5913AA@swbell.net>, Rechelle Blair
<RG_Blair@swbell.net> writes
>
>
snip
>
>:p I'm having a rough day, I can't spell for anything today.  It's the
>Guiness.
>

How much had you had?

-- 
Peter Thomas

Whilst licking their paws in alt.animals.cat on  Sun, 08 Oct 2000
12:25:46 GMT, Gods Good Counselor <oracle_of_the_mighty@my-deja.com>
purred the following:

:)
:)
:)What is the
:)         a) world's
:)         b) UK's
:)                     oldest cat?

I know it's not *the* oldest but my Nan had a cat that passed away
when she was 22.  She was a beautiful little black and white rescue
moggie ... 


Purrs                       
                             
Vicki Cleaver                               /\/\   /\/\   /\/\  /\/\ 
kittecat@bigpond.com                       ( oo ) ( oo ) ( oo )( oo )
http://www.users.bigpond.com/kittecat       =^^=   =^^=   =^^=  =^^= 
Lifetime member of Ailurophiles Anonymous   Augie  Siani  Issy Lottie

Dedicated to my Lexy, Toby, Chia, Meghie and Candi the Angel kitties..

In england.rec.pets Vicki Cleaver <DOkittecatNOT@spambigpond.com> wrote:

> I know it's not *the* oldest but my Nan had a cat that passed away
> when she was 22.  She was a beautiful little black and white rescue
> moggie ... 

Our pussy died around the age of 16.  (She was rescued too.)

-- 
Darren Wyn Rees	            merlin@netlink.co.uk
ASK your ISP to ADD the NEW england.* Newsgroups
http://www.england.news-admin.org/accessfaq.html

hi there all you cat lovers perhaps not the oldest but we hed a little
bundle of fun for 26 years and six months
Gods Good Counselor wrote in message <8rpp49$tjb$1@nnrp1.deja.com>...
>
>
>What is the
>         a) world's
>         b) UK's
>                     oldest cat?
>
>--
>Oracle of the Mighty (Children of the Voice)
>
>
>Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
>Before you buy.

Don't know about the UK, but know back in the '50s my grandmother's
neighbour
had two Siamese, on was 25 and one was 27,
Gods Good Counselor <oracle_of_the_mighty@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8rpp49$tjb$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
>
> What is the
>          a) world's
>          b) UK's
>                      oldest cat?
>
> --
> Oracle of the Mighty (Children of the Voice)
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Gods Good Counselor wrote:

> What is the
>          a) world's
>          b) UK's
>                      oldest cat?

Not sure about the UK's oldest cat, but I believe the genius book of
world records states the oldest cat as being either 34 or 35.

--
Cheers,
Rechelle

"Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods.  Cats have never
forgotten this."

On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 13:37:03 -0500, Rechelle Blair
<RG_Blair@swbell.net> wrote:

>
>
>Gods Good Counselor wrote:
>
>> What is the
>>          a) world's
>>          b) UK's
>>                      oldest cat?
>
>Not sure about the UK's oldest cat, but I believe the genius book of
>world records states the oldest cat as being either 34 or 35.
>
Ahemmmmm, not to start up another row, but it would be interesting to
know if these cats of 20 and above are indoor or outdoor.   Just a
thought.

BTW What's the Genius Book of Records?  Is it related to the Guiness
book, or is it purely an American thing?

Jen

Gods Good Counselor wrote:

> What is the
>          a) world's
>          b) UK's
>                      oldest cat?
>
> --
> Oracle of the Mighty (Children of the Voice)
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

An issue of one of the cat fancy magazines had a contest for the eldest
cat one or two years ago.  The oldest living cat they found was 28 years
old (as I remember) and living in Austin, Texas.
John

Jennifer wrote:

> On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 13:37:03 -0500, Rechelle Blair
> <RG_Blair@swbell.net> wrote:
>
> >Not sure about the UK's oldest cat, but I believe the genius book of
> >world records states the oldest cat as being either 34 or 35.
> >
> Ahemmmmm, not to start up another row, but it would be interesting to
> know if these cats of 20 and above are indoor or outdoor.   Just a
> thought.

We have a cat that is about to turn 18.  For the first 13 years of her
life she was an indoor/outdoor cat (she's my husband's cat).  The last 5
years, she's decided she prefers to be indoors only, she just one day
stopped going outside.  As for others, I couldn't tell you.


>
> BTW What's the Genius Book of Records?  Is it related to the Guiness
> book, or is it purely an American thing?

:p I'm having a rough day, I can't spell for anything today.  It's the
Guiness.

--
Cheers,
Rechelle

"Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods.  Cats have never
forgotten this."

Sn!pe <snipe@uk-rec-sheds.org.uk> wrote in message
news:8761usstepjall6vreh4eullju29dsbish@4ax.com...
> In message <8rpp49$tjb$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
> Gods Good Counselor wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >What is the
> >         a) world's
> >         b) UK's
> >                     oldest cat?
>
> Wumpus?
Flak jackets and alumiminiumuum hats in order there I fink.
--
Chris.
West Cork
"I've just heard that photons have mass. I didn't even know they were
Catholics."

In article <39e0c09e.60514858@news.blueyonder.co.uk>, Jennifer
<jennyem@hotmail.com> writes
>On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 13:37:03 -0500, Rechelle Blair
><RG_Blair@swbell.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Gods Good Counselor wrote:
>>
>>> What is the
>>>          a) world's
>>>          b) UK's
>>>                      oldest cat?
>>
>>Not sure about the UK's oldest cat, but I believe the genius book of
>>world records states the oldest cat as being either 34 or 35.
>>
>Ahemmmmm, not to start up another row, but it would be interesting to
>know if these cats of 20 and above are indoor or outdoor.   Just a
>thought.

Almost certainly outdoor if they live in the UK.  Keeping cats indoors
is a rather new fashion here except for pedigree breeding stock.
>
>BTW What's the Genius Book of Records?  Is it related to the Guiness
>book, or is it purely an American thing?
>
>Jen

-- 
Surfer!

On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 18:49:07 GMT, jennyem@hotmail.com (Jennifer)
wrote:

^ On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 13:37:03 -0500, Rechelle Blair
^ <RG_Blair@swbell.net> wrote:

^ >Gods Good Counselor wrote:

^ >> What is the
^ >>          a) world's
^ >>          b) UK's
^ >>                      oldest cat?

^ >Not sure about the UK's oldest cat, but I believe the genius book of
^ >world records states the oldest cat as being either 34 or 35.

^ Ahemmmmm, not to start up another row, but it would be interesting to
^ know if these cats of 20 and above are indoor or outdoor.   Just a
^ thought.
^ 
^ BTW What's the Genius Book of Records?  Is it related to the Guiness
^ book, or is it purely an American thing?

It's a sort of MENSA version. Only allowed to buy it if you've got an
IQ greater than 150. Doesn't sound like you're in with much of a
chance.

Andy

--
sparge at globalnet point co point uk

"Ignorance is linked to laziness, both are deplorable,
 the latter not to be confused with tuit-shortage,
 which looks a lot like laziness to the ignorant"
 Austin Shackles, uk.rec.sheds

On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 14:09:34 -0500, Rechelle Blair
<RG_Blair@swbell.net> wrote:

>
>
>Jennifer wrote:
>
>> On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 13:37:03 -0500, Rechelle Blair
>> <RG_Blair@swbell.net> wrote:
>>
>> >Not sure about the UK's oldest cat, but I believe the genius book of
>> >world records states the oldest cat as being either 34 or 35.
>> >
>> Ahemmmmm, not to start up another row, but it would be interesting to
>> know if these cats of 20 and above are indoor or outdoor.   Just a
>> thought.
>
>We have a cat that is about to turn 18.  For the first 13 years of her
>life she was an indoor/outdoor cat (she's my husband's cat).  The last 5
>years, she's decided she prefers to be indoors only, she just one day
>stopped going outside.  As for others, I couldn't tell you.
>
I can understand that in an older cat.   Bit like older people really
- they get too stiff, tired and uninterested.

>> BTW What's the Genius Book of Records?  Is it related to the Guiness
>> book, or is it purely an American thing?
>
>:p I'm having a rough day, I can't spell for anything today.  It's the
>Guiness.

OK.

Jen

On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 19:38:07 GMT, sparge@globalnet.co.uk (Andy Spragg)
wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 18:49:07 GMT, jennyem@hotmail.com (Jennifer)
>wrote:
>
>^ On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 13:37:03 -0500, Rechelle Blair
>^ <RG_Blair@swbell.net> wrote:
>
>^ >Gods Good Counselor wrote:
>
>^ >> What is the
>^ >>          a) world's
>^ >>          b) UK's
>^ >>                      oldest cat?
>
>^ >Not sure about the UK's oldest cat, but I believe the genius book of
>^ >world records states the oldest cat as being either 34 or 35.
>
>^ Ahemmmmm, not to start up another row, but it would be interesting to
>^ know if these cats of 20 and above are indoor or outdoor.   Just a
>^ thought.
>^ 
>^ BTW What's the Genius Book of Records?  Is it related to the Guiness
>^ book, or is it purely an American thing?
>
>It's a sort of MENSA version. Only allowed to buy it if you've got an
>IQ greater than 150. Doesn't sound like you're in with much of a
>chance.

Check the membership list.

Jen

Rechelle Blair <RG_Blair@swbell.net> wrote in message
news:39E0C66E.DE5913AA@swbell.net...
>
>
> Jennifer wrote:
>
> > On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 13:37:03 -0500, Rechelle Blair
> > <RG_Blair@swbell.net> wrote:
> >
> > >Not sure about the UK's oldest cat, but I believe the genius book of
> > >world records states the oldest cat as being either 34 or 35.
> > >
> > Ahemmmmm, not to start up another row, but it would be interesting to
> > know if these cats of 20 and above are indoor or outdoor.   Just a
> > thought.
>
> We have a cat that is about to turn 18.  For the first 13 years of her
> life she was an indoor/outdoor cat (she's my husband's cat).  The last 5
> years, she's decided she prefers to be indoors only, she just one day
> stopped going outside.  As for others, I couldn't tell you.
>
>
> >
> > BTW What's the Genius Book of Records?  Is it related to the Guiness
> > book, or is it purely an American thing?
>
> :p I'm having a rough day, I can't spell for anything today.  It's the
> Guiness.
Pedant mode on.......
Guinness actually
Pedant mode off.........
H

On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 22:39:02 GMT, sparge@globalnet.co.uk (Andy Spragg)
wrote:

>On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 19:50:30 GMT, jennyem@hotmail.com (Jennifer)
>wrote:
>
>^ On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 19:38:07 GMT, sparge@globalnet.co.uk (Andy Spragg)
>^ wrote:
>
>^ >^ book, or is it purely an American thing?
>
>^ >It's a sort of MENSA version. Only allowed to buy it if you've got an
>^ >IQ greater than 150. Doesn't sound like you're in with much of a
>^ >chance.
>
>^ Check the membership list.
>
>Sounds like you should do the honourable thing then.
 
From the spelling you use it seems that you are either in the UK or
are British.   You should therefore be able to recognise gentle irony
when you come across it.   

HTH

Jen

'Twas a dark and stormy night on Sun, 08 Oct 2000 12:25:46 GMT as Gods Good
Counselor <oracle_of_the_mighty@my-deja.com> took time out from the neverending
quest to rid the world of grues and wrote:
  
> What is the
>          a) world's
>          b) UK's
>                      oldest cat?

I had a cat that lived to 24.  She was still healthy until some arsehole kicked
her in the head.  She suffered brain damage and had to be put down.  ;-(


Catchya

   http://www.ozemail.com.au/~kingpin1

       > The home of #The-Pit <

> Home of the Aussie Dropbear Page <

'Twas a dark and stormy night on Sun, 08 Oct 2000 18:49:07 GMT as
jennyem@hotmail.com (Jennifer) took time out from the neverending quest to rid
the world of grues and wrote:
  
> Ahemmmmm, not to start up another row, but it would be interesting to
> know if these cats of 20 and above are indoor or outdoor.   Just a
> thought.
 
The 24 year old one I just posted on was an outdoor cat during the day, indoor
at night.

Catchya

   http://www.ozemail.com.au/~kingpin1

       > The home of #The-Pit <

> Home of the Aussie Dropbear Page <

On Mon, 09 Oct 2000 11:06:43 +0100, Sn!pe <snipe@uk-rec-sheds.org.uk>
wrote:

>In message <39e185ef.2858698@news.blueyonder.co.uk>,  
>Jennifer wrote:
>
>[...]
>>From the spelling you use it seems that you are either in the UK or
>>are British.   You should therefore be able to recognise gentle irony
>>when you come across it.   
>
>OOOoooOOOoooOOOooo! Gentle irony in the Shed!
>Wot next, severe aluminiminiminium?

Eeeeeeeek, never noticed rec.sheds in that list!

Jen
- off to get eyes tested

Jennifer <jennyem@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:39e1a1ea.7466527@news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> On Mon, 09 Oct 2000 11:06:43 +0100, Sn!pe <snipe@uk-rec-sheds.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
> >In message <39e185ef.2858698@news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> >Jennifer wrote:
> >
> >[...]
> >>From the spelling you use it seems that you are either in the UK or
> >>are British.   You should therefore be able to recognise gentle irony
> >>when you come across it.
> >
> >OOOoooOOOoooOOOooo! Gentle irony in the Shed!
> >Wot next, severe aluminiminiminium?
>
> Eeeeeeeek, never noticed rec.sheds in that list!
>
> Jen
> - off to get eyes tested

Well I don't have cats in my shed (I'm allergic to them) but thought you cat
lovers might like this

http://www.bitboost.com/pawsense/index.html

coj

On Mon, 09 Oct 2000 08:50:35 GMT, jennyem@hotmail.com (Jennifer)
wrote:

^ On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 22:39:02 GMT, sparge@globalnet.co.uk (Andy Spragg)
^ wrote:
^ 
^ >On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 19:50:30 GMT, jennyem@hotmail.com (Jennifer)
^ >wrote:
^ >
^ >^ On Sun, 08 Oct 2000 19:38:07 GMT, sparge@globalnet.co.uk (Andy Spragg)
^ >^ wrote:
^ >
^ >^ >^ book, or is it purely an American thing?
^ >
^ >^ >It's a sort of MENSA version. Only allowed to buy it if you've got an
^ >^ >IQ greater than 150. Doesn't sound like you're in with much of a
^ >^ >chance.
^ >
^ >^ Check the membership list.
^ >
^ >Sounds like you should do the honourable thing then.
^  
^ From the spelling you use it seems that you are either in the UK or
^ are British.   You should therefore be able to recognise gentle irony
^ when you come across it.   
^ 
^ HTH

It did. Yer right, I bin thinking fur a while I should go an get me
eyes retested. Your ferrous humour was a bit /too/ gentle for me at
that time of night, an me flame thrower needed a discharge cos his jet
was getting a bit gummed up. IBYP, have a BA.

Andy

--
sparge at globalnet point co point uk

Speculate to accumulate;
catabolize to anabolize;
reculer pour mieux sauter.

On Mon, 09 Oct 2000 17:43:22 GMT, sparge@globalnet.co.uk (Andy Spragg)
wrote:

> 
>
>It did. Yer right, I bin thinking fur a while I should go an get me
>eyes retested. Your ferrous humour was a bit /too/ gentle for me at
>that time of night, an me flame thrower needed a discharge cos his jet
>was getting a bit gummed up. IBYP, have a BA.
>
S'okay.

Jen 

Jennifer wrote:

> I can understand that in an older cat.   Bit like older people really
> - they get too stiff, tired and uninterested.

>

Glad that you can see that Jen.  Bob makes it sound like I'm a horrible kitty
Mom for making her stay inside.  She just stopped showing interest in the
outdoors and the other 2 are terrified of the outdoors, as well as it just
isn't safe where I live.  Between kids, cars and tons of construction, it
would be sentencing them to death here.  Plus, there are rabid skunks around
us again (such fun).

--
Cheers,
Rechelle

"Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods.  Cats have never
forgotten this."

Jennifer wrote:

> From the spelling you use it seems that you are either in the UK or
> are British.   You should therefore be able to recognise gentle irony
> when you come across it.
>
> HTH
>
> Jen

Canada and Australia use that spelling as well.  Sorry nitpicking I know.


--
Cheers,
Rechelle

"Thousands of years ago, cats were worshipped as gods.  Cats have never
forgotten this."

World's is 36 years I believe.

"Gods Good Counselor" <oracle_of_the_mighty@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:8rpp49$tjb$1@nnrp1.deja.com...
>
>
> What is the
>          a) world's
>          b) UK's
>                      oldest cat?
>
> --
> Oracle of the Mighty (Children of the Voice)
>
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

In article <8rpp49$tjb$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  Gods Good Counselor <oracle_of_the_mighty@my-deja.com> wrote:
>
>
> What is the
>          a) world's
>          b) UK's
>                      oldest cat?
>

Older cats have a different taste than younger cats (much nicer, more
tender IMO) - but remember cat has to be cooked very, very slowly. I
will put you some recipes on web and post URL here - later.


--
Oracle of the Mighty (Children of the Voice)


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

In article <39e0d735.2850207@news.bigpond.com>,
  Vicki Cleaver <DOkittecatNOT@SPAMbigpond.com> wrote:
> Whilst licking their paws in alt.animals.cat on  Sun, 08 Oct 2000
> 18:49:07 GMT, jennyem@hotmail.com (Jennifer) purred the following:
>
> :)Ahemmmmm, not to start up another row, but it would be interesting
to
> :)know if these cats of 20 and above are indoor or outdoor.   Just a
> :)thought.
>
> Nan's 22 year old was indoors at night (stictly) and outdoors during
> the day.  She passed away due to kidney failure BTW, not an accident
> or infection.
>
> See, even when something doesn't support my own belief I can still be
> honest about it :)
>
> Purrs
>
> Vicki Cleaver                               /\/\   /\/\   /\/\  /\/\
> kittecat@bigpond.com                       ( oo ) ( oo ) ( oo )( oo )
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/kittecat       =^^=   =^^=   =^^=  =^^=
> Lifetime member of Ailurophiles Anonymous   Augie  Siani  Issy Lottie
>
> Dedicated to my Lexy, Toby, Chia, Meghie and Candi the Angel kitties..
>

--
Lin Fong


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

Vicki Cleaver <DOkittecatNOT@SPAMbigpond.com> wrote in message
news:39e0d735.2850207@news.bigpond.com...
> Whilst licking their paws in alt.animals.cat on  Sun, 08 Oct 2000
> 18:49:07 GMT, jennyem@hotmail.com (Jennifer) purred the following:
>
> :)Ahemmmmm, not to start up another row, but it would be interesting to
> :)know if these cats of 20 and above are indoor or outdoor.   Just a
> :)thought.
>
> Nan's 22 year old was indoors at night (stictly) and outdoors during
> the day.  She passed away due to kidney failure BTW, not an accident
> or infection.
>
> See, even when something doesn't support my own belief I can still be
> honest about it :)
>
>
> Purrs
>
> Vicki Cleaver                               /\/\   /\/\   /\/\  /\/\
> kittecat@bigpond.com                       ( oo ) ( oo ) ( oo )( oo )
> http://www.users.bigpond.com/kittecat       =^^=   =^^=   =^^=  =^^=
> Lifetime member of Ailurophiles Anonymous   Augie  Siani  Issy Lottie
>
> Dedicated to my Lexy, Toby, Chia, Meghie and Candi the Angel kitties..

My family was adopted by a feral cat that lived to 21. Feral until about
3yrs, indoor/outdoor until death.

Sn!pe <snipe@uk-rec-sheds.org.uk> wrote in message
news:p363uss80bgn7m5f2u1e6020gud3b4h5u9@4ax.com...
> In message <39e185ef.2858698@news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> Jennifer wrote:
>
> [...]
> >From the spelling you use it seems that you are either in the UK or
> >are British.   You should therefore be able to recognise gentle irony
> >when you come across it.
>
> OOOoooOOOoooOOOooo! Gentle irony in the Shed!
> Wot next, severe aluminiminiminium?
I can't post to the other groups so they are going to have to do without my
ideas on the best heat and how to iron cats.

--
Chris.
West Cork
ICQ 50427129

Hey there, I still wonder why the recent trend towards only  indoor cats is
perpetuated?  I dislike that as much as solely outdoor pets who have a hard
time for different reasons.  Like you, and the dog, cats enjoy a little time
out during the day, and time in at night or in bad weather.

Why not keep dogs indoors too... don't all the same safety reasons pertain
to them?  Why is it OK to risk cars, leg traps, ticks, fleas, shortened life
span etc. (even if he's just in your yard)... for dogs?

Be a good "mom" supervise them inside, or outside.
http://catcaresociety.org/Safe.htm

My "indoor" cat died at 5 yrs of kidney failure, she did get to go out a
little because I moved to a townhouse a few months before she died.  My
other indoor cat made the transition to mostly indoor / a little outdoor,
and the new calico cat only knows the indoor/outdoor routine.  I don't turn
in at night without getting them all in, and they like to go out for 10-15
mins at a time, 3-4 times a day.  Rumor has it any cat who has siestas on
your deck will die by year 3- not true.

My oldest is 7.5, the next is 2, my dad has one indoor/outdoor cat that's
pushing 15.  The youngest cat in our family to die was the indoor cat, at 5.

Tamara


Lin Fong wrote:

> In article <39e0d735.2850207@news.bigpond.com>,
>   Vicki Cleaver <DOkittecatNOT@SPAMbigpond.com> wrote:
> > Whilst licking their paws in alt.animals.cat on  Sun, 08 Oct 2000
> > 18:49:07 GMT, jennyem@hotmail.com (Jennifer) purred the following:
> >
> > :)Ahemmmmm, not to start up another row, but it would be interesting
> to
> > :)know if these cats of 20 and above are indoor or outdoor.   Just a
> > :)thought.
> >
> > Nan's 22 year old was indoors at night (stictly) and outdoors during
> > the day.  She passed away due to kidney failure BTW, not an accident
> > or infection.
> >
> > See, even when something doesn't support my own belief I can still be
> > honest about it :)
> >
> > Purrs
> >
> > Vicki Cleaver                               /\/\   /\/\   /\/\  /\/\
> > kittecat@bigpond.com                       ( oo ) ( oo ) ( oo )( oo )
> > http://www.users.bigpond.com/kittecat       =^^=   =^^=   =^^=  =^^=
> > Lifetime member of Ailurophiles Anonymous   Augie  Siani  Issy Lottie
> >
> > Dedicated to my Lexy, Toby, Chia, Meghie and Candi the Angel kitties..
> >
>
> --
> Lin Fong
>
> Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
> Before you buy.

Whilst licking their paws in alt.animals.cat on  13 Oct 2000,
covelc@sympatico.ca (Chris Covell) purred the following: 

>Why not keep dogs indoors too... don't all the same safety reasons
>pertain to them?  Why is it OK to risk cars, leg traps, ticks, fleas,
>shortened life span etc. (even if he's just in your yard)... for dogs?

There is one major difference between cats and dogs - with dogs it's 
relatively easy to confine them to your backyard.  Even six foot fences 
(the height limit here in Australia) doens't keep in a cat!

I don't know about you, but there aren't many cars driving around my back 
yard.  And who is going to set a leg trap there?  Shortened life span is 
only going to happen if your dog gets poisoned (true, something you can't 
stop - someone can throw a bait over a fence).  Other diseases and fleas 
involve the dog having to have contact with another dog - which won't 
happen if you have the yard well fenced.  There is still a danger from 
ticks, I'll admit.


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Vicki Cleaver                               /\/\   /\/\   /\/\  /\/\ 
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http://www.users.bigpond.com/kittecat       =^^=   =^^=   =^^=  =^^= 
Lifetime member of Ailurophiles Anonymous   Augie  Siani  Issy Lottie

Dedicated to my Lexy, Toby, Chia, Meghie and Candi the Angel kitties..