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On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:10:28 GMT, Ben Thomas <nosp@m.thanks.mate>
wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I have been trying to turn my MiniDV home videos into DVDs but it takes many 
>hours to encode the MPEG for the DVD on my AMD Athlon XP 2700+ with 512MB RAM 
>and 7200RPM hard disk, using Ulead VideoStudio. It seems to take even longer to 
>convert MPEG2 (captured from my digital TV card) into MPEG2 suitable for DVD. 
>I'm guessing CPU is the main problem and there aren't many faster CPU 
>alternatives but please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
>So can I get a PCI card that will do the job for me?
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Ben Thomas
>Melbourne
>Australia

Do yourself a favour. Buy a dvd recorder which does all this in real
time.

mb wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:10:28 GMT, Ben Thomas <nosp@m.thanks.mate>
> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Hi all,
>>
>>I have been trying to turn my MiniDV home videos into DVDs but it takes many 
>>hours to encode the MPEG for the DVD on my AMD Athlon XP 2700+ with 512MB RAM 
>>and 7200RPM hard disk, using Ulead VideoStudio. It seems to take even longer to 
>>convert MPEG2 (captured from my digital TV card) into MPEG2 suitable for DVD. 
>>I'm guessing CPU is the main problem and there aren't many faster CPU 
>>alternatives but please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>
>>So can I get a PCI card that will do the job for me?
>>
>>Thanks for any help.
>>
>>Ben Thomas
>>Melbourne
>>Australia
> 
> 
> Do yourself a favour. Buy a dvd recorder which does all this in real
> time.
> 

Can you create chapters, menus, scene transitions, etc?

Ben Thomas wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have been trying to turn my MiniDV home videos into DVDs but it takes 
> many hours to encode the MPEG for the DVD on my AMD Athlon XP 2700+ with 
> 512MB RAM and 7200RPM hard disk, using Ulead VideoStudio. It seems to 
> take even longer to convert MPEG2 (captured from my digital TV card) 
> into MPEG2 suitable for DVD. I'm guessing CPU is the main problem and 
> there aren't many faster CPU alternatives but please correct me if I'm 
> wrong.
> 
> So can I get a PCI card that will do the job for me?
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Ben Thomas
> Melbourne
> Australia

I've recently been researching something very similar to this. Do to 
other equipment needed, (CPU upgrade from Athlon 1700+, VCR, new video 
card, etc) we opted for a software based encoder as our needs were 
pretty basic. However, there were two hardware based encoders that I was 
seriously looking at:
Pinnacle Studio AV/DV card (comes with Pinnacle Studio 9 software)
http://www.pinnaclesys.com/WebVideo/comparisoncharts/doc/discover_studio_US.asp?Langue_ID=7
http://www.trinix.com.au/r_video.htm
(down in the list, just above the deluxe version)

Leadtek Winfast PVR 2000:
http://www.leadtek.com.tw/eng/tv_tuner/overview.asp?lineid=6&pronameid=91

That said, I could really use more information from you: what camera are 
you using? Is it using analogue out? Firewire?

cheers,

Ari

-- 
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I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my 
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in 
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone 
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow 
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

spodosaurus wrote:

> 
> I've recently been researching something very similar to this. Do to 
> other equipment needed, (CPU upgrade from Athlon 1700+, VCR, new video 
> card, etc) we opted for a software based encoder as our needs were 
> pretty basic. However, there were two hardware based encoders that I was 
> seriously looking at:
> Pinnacle Studio AV/DV card (comes with Pinnacle Studio 9 software)
> http://www.pinnaclesys.com/WebVideo/comparisoncharts/doc/discover_studio_US.asp?Langue_ID=7 
> 
> http://www.trinix.com.au/r_video.htm
> (down in the list, just above the deluxe version)
> 
> Leadtek Winfast PVR 2000:
> http://www.leadtek.com.tw/eng/tv_tuner/overview.asp?lineid=6&pronameid=91

Thanks for the info.

> That said, I could really use more information from you: what camera are 
> you using? Is it using analogue out? Firewire?
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Ari
> 

My camara is a JVC GR-DVP3EA MiniDV with firewire out.

Ben Thomas wrote:
> spodosaurus wrote:
> 
>>
>> I've recently been researching something very similar to this. Do to 
>> other equipment needed, (CPU upgrade from Athlon 1700+, VCR, new video 
>> card, etc) we opted for a software based encoder as our needs were 
>> pretty basic. However, there were two hardware based encoders that I 
>> was seriously looking at:
>> Pinnacle Studio AV/DV card (comes with Pinnacle Studio 9 software)
>> http://www.pinnaclesys.com/WebVideo/comparisoncharts/doc/discover_studio_US.asp?Langue_ID=7 
>>
>> http://www.trinix.com.au/r_video.htm
>> (down in the list, just above the deluxe version)
>>
>> Leadtek Winfast PVR 2000:
>> http://www.leadtek.com.tw/eng/tv_tuner/overview.asp?lineid=6&pronameid=91
> 
> 
> Thanks for the info.
> 
>> That said, I could really use more information from you: what camera 
>> are you using? Is it using analogue out? Firewire?
>>
>> cheers,
>>
>> Ari
>>
> 
> My camara is a JVC GR-DVP3EA MiniDV with firewire out.

In that case, look at the pinnacle system (I need to confirm if the card 
it contains is a true hardware encoding card). Hmmm..I wonder if I still 
have the Australian PC User magazine that did a brief review of kits 
available for the purpose you want (didn't quite apply to me)...let me 
check...

Found it, but had to look back a fair ways: October 2004.

Hmmm...not much in there worth much. They don't make a point in the 
budget range about whether cards have a hardware encoder or not, aside 
from the Adaptec VideoOh! card (internal and external) which does:
http://www.adaptec.com.au/worldwide/product/proddetail.html?sess=no&language=English+US&prodkey=AVC-2310&cat=%2fTechnology%2fVideo%2fVideo+Capture+and+Creation
http://www.simline.com.au/product.asp?prodid=5180

How mucha re you planning on spending for this?

There's a range of different cards here and you can explore their features:
http://www.scorptec.com.au/index.php?catid=00000035&subid=00000065

-- 
spammage trappage: replace fishies_ with yahoo

I'm going to die rather sooner than I'd like. I tried to protect my 
neighbours from crime, and became the victim of it. Complications in 
hospital following this resulted in a serious illness. I now need a bone 
marrow transplant. Many people around the world are waiting for a marrow 
transplant, too. Please volunteer to be a marrow donor:
http://www.abmdr.org.au/
http://www.marrow.org/

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 03:40:03 GMT, Ben Thomas <nosp@m.thanks.mate>
wrote:

>mb wrote:
>> On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:10:28 GMT, Ben Thomas <nosp@m.thanks.mate>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>>Hi all,
>>>
>>>I have been trying to turn my MiniDV home videos into DVDs but it takes many 
>>>hours to encode the MPEG for the DVD on my AMD Athlon XP 2700+ with 512MB RAM 
>>>and 7200RPM hard disk, using Ulead VideoStudio. It seems to take even longer to 
>>>convert MPEG2 (captured from my digital TV card) into MPEG2 suitable for DVD. 
>>>I'm guessing CPU is the main problem and there aren't many faster CPU 
>>>alternatives but please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>
>>>So can I get a PCI card that will do the job for me?
>>>
>>>Thanks for any help.
>>>
>>>Ben Thomas
>>>Melbourne
>>>Australia
>> 
>> 
>> Do yourself a favour. Buy a dvd recorder which does all this in real
>> time.
>> 
>
>Can you create chapters, menus, scene transitions, etc?

It does the chapters automatically.
If you want to do fancy stuff then upload and use dvd author and NO
encoding required because its already encoded.

"mb" <mb@mb.nospam> wrote in message 
news:qos4b1l4p7qq5711tu9l4fib2bd8t7sq4h@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 03:40:03 GMT, Ben Thomas <nosp@m.thanks.mate>
> wrote:
>
>>mb wrote:
>>> On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:10:28 GMT, Ben Thomas <nosp@m.thanks.mate>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>I have been trying to turn my MiniDV home videos into DVDs but it takes 
>>>>many
>>>>hours to encode the MPEG for the DVD on my AMD Athlon XP 2700+ with 
>>>>512MB RAM
>>>>and 7200RPM hard disk, using Ulead VideoStudio. It seems to take even 
>>>>longer to
>>>>convert MPEG2 (captured from my digital TV card) into MPEG2 suitable for 
>>>>DVD.
>>>>I'm guessing CPU is the main problem and there aren't many faster CPU
>>>>alternatives but please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>>
>>>>So can I get a PCI card that will do the job for me?
>>>>
>>>>Thanks for any help.
>>>>
>>>>Ben Thomas
>>>>Melbourne
>>>>Australia
>>>
>>>
>>> Do yourself a favour. Buy a dvd recorder which does all this in real
>>> time.
>>>
>>
>>Can you create chapters, menus, scene transitions, etc?
>
> It does the chapters automatically.
> If you want to do fancy stuff then upload and use dvd author and NO
> encoding required because its already encoded.
>

If you alter it then it will need re-entering.Its the transitions and 
effects that take up the time especially noise reduction and colour changes. 

Ben Thomas wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have been trying to turn my MiniDV home videos into DVDs but it takes 
> many hours to encode the MPEG for the DVD on my AMD Athlon XP 2700+ with 
> 512MB RAM and 7200RPM hard disk, using Ulead VideoStudio. It seems to 
> take even longer to convert MPEG2 (captured from my digital TV card) 
> into MPEG2 suitable for DVD. I'm guessing CPU is the main problem and 
> there aren't many faster CPU alternatives but please correct me if I'm 
> wrong.
> 
> So can I get a PCI card that will do the job for me?
> 
> Thanks for any help.
> 
> Ben Thomas
> Melbourne
> Australia
Simplest solution fit this 
http://www.inventa.com.au/Product%20Release%20and%20Comment/FusionMPEG2.htm
and attach your outputs from your DV card to it. Save files. Author your 
transitions and menus with your software and compile to dvd format. 
Should save time as the mpegs only have to indexed into VOB's.

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:24:48 +0100, "Trev"
<trevbowdenATdsl.pipexDOTnet> wrote:

>
>"mb" <mb@mb.nospam> wrote in message 
>news:qos4b1l4p7qq5711tu9l4fib2bd8t7sq4h@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 03:40:03 GMT, Ben Thomas <nosp@m.thanks.mate>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>mb wrote:
>>>> On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:10:28 GMT, Ben Thomas <nosp@m.thanks.mate>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>>I have been trying to turn my MiniDV home videos into DVDs but it takes 
>>>>>many
>>>>>hours to encode the MPEG for the DVD on my AMD Athlon XP 2700+ with 
>>>>>512MB RAM
>>>>>and 7200RPM hard disk, using Ulead VideoStudio. It seems to take even 
>>>>>longer to
>>>>>convert MPEG2 (captured from my digital TV card) into MPEG2 suitable for 
>>>>>DVD.
>>>>>I'm guessing CPU is the main problem and there aren't many faster CPU
>>>>>alternatives but please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>>So can I get a PCI card that will do the job for me?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks for any help.
>>>>>
>>>>>Ben Thomas
>>>>>Melbourne
>>>>>Australia
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Do yourself a favour. Buy a dvd recorder which does all this in real
>>>> time.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Can you create chapters, menus, scene transitions, etc?
>>
>> It does the chapters automatically.
>> If you want to do fancy stuff then upload and use dvd author and NO
>> encoding required because its already encoded.
>>
>
>If you alter it then it will need re-entering.Its the transitions and 
>effects that take up the time especially noise reduction and colour changes. 

DVD author does not re encode it. Go download the trial version and
see for yourself. Been using it for the past couple of years. I use it
to create my own menus or edit out bits of video. No extra encoding is
done.

"mb" <mb@mb.nospam> wrote in message 
news:tfr5b19t0urlnfve9frvma1s51c731arfe@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:24:48 +0100, "Trev"
> <trevbowdenATdsl.pipexDOTnet> wrote:
>
>>
>>"mb" <mb@mb.nospam> wrote in message
>>news:qos4b1l4p7qq5711tu9l4fib2bd8t7sq4h@4ax.com...
>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 03:40:03 GMT, Ben Thomas <nosp@m.thanks.mate>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>mb wrote:
>>>>> On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:10:28 GMT, Ben Thomas <nosp@m.thanks.mate>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I have been trying to turn my MiniDV home videos into DVDs but it 
>>>>>>takes
>>>>>>many
>>>>>>hours to encode the MPEG for the DVD on my AMD Athlon XP 2700+ with
>>>>>>512MB RAM
>>>>>>and 7200RPM hard disk, using Ulead VideoStudio. It seems to take even
>>>>>>longer to
>>>>>>convert MPEG2 (captured from my digital TV card) into MPEG2 suitable 
>>>>>>for
>>>>>>DVD.
>>>>>>I'm guessing CPU is the main problem and there aren't many faster CPU
>>>>>>alternatives but please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>So can I get a PCI card that will do the job for me?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for any help.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Ben Thomas
>>>>>>Melbourne
>>>>>>Australia
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Do yourself a favour. Buy a dvd recorder which does all this in real
>>>>> time.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Can you create chapters, menus, scene transitions, etc?
>>>
>>> It does the chapters automatically.
>>> If you want to do fancy stuff then upload and use dvd author and NO
>>> encoding required because its already encoded.
>>>
>>
>>If you alter it then it will need re-entering.Its the transitions and
>>effects that take up the time especially noise reduction and colour 
>>changes.
>
> DVD author does not re encode it. Go download the trial version and
> see for yourself. Been using it for the past couple of years. I use it
> to create my own menus or edit out bits of video. No extra encoding is
> done.
>

Something went amiss. Re-entering should have read rerendering a bit 
differant from encoding. If you make cuts add transitions Its a new movie 
and need's to be  rendered again 

On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 18:36:08 +0100, "Trev"
<trevbowdenATdsl.pipexDOTnet> wrote:

>
>"mb" <mb@mb.nospam> wrote in message 
>news:tfr5b19t0urlnfve9frvma1s51c731arfe@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 10:24:48 +0100, "Trev"
>> <trevbowdenATdsl.pipexDOTnet> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>"mb" <mb@mb.nospam> wrote in message
>>>news:qos4b1l4p7qq5711tu9l4fib2bd8t7sq4h@4ax.com...
>>>> On Fri, 17 Jun 2005 03:40:03 GMT, Ben Thomas <nosp@m.thanks.mate>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>mb wrote:
>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:10:28 GMT, Ben Thomas <nosp@m.thanks.mate>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I have been trying to turn my MiniDV home videos into DVDs but it 
>>>>>>>takes
>>>>>>>many
>>>>>>>hours to encode the MPEG for the DVD on my AMD Athlon XP 2700+ with
>>>>>>>512MB RAM
>>>>>>>and 7200RPM hard disk, using Ulead VideoStudio. It seems to take even
>>>>>>>longer to
>>>>>>>convert MPEG2 (captured from my digital TV card) into MPEG2 suitable 
>>>>>>>for
>>>>>>>DVD.
>>>>>>>I'm guessing CPU is the main problem and there aren't many faster CPU
>>>>>>>alternatives but please correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>So can I get a PCI card that will do the job for me?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks for any help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Ben Thomas
>>>>>>>Melbourne
>>>>>>>Australia
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do yourself a favour. Buy a dvd recorder which does all this in real
>>>>>> time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Can you create chapters, menus, scene transitions, etc?
>>>>
>>>> It does the chapters automatically.
>>>> If you want to do fancy stuff then upload and use dvd author and NO
>>>> encoding required because its already encoded.
>>>>
>>>
>>>If you alter it then it will need re-entering.Its the transitions and
>>>effects that take up the time especially noise reduction and colour 
>>>changes.
>>
>> DVD author does not re encode it. Go download the trial version and
>> see for yourself. Been using it for the past couple of years. I use it
>> to create my own menus or edit out bits of video. No extra encoding is
>> done.
>>
>
>Something went amiss. Re-entering should have read rerendering a bit 
>differant from encoding. If you make cuts add transitions Its a new movie 
>and need's to be  rendered again 

NOT with DVD Author it doesn't. Been using it many times over the past
2 years. Its the beauty of DVD Author and why iots so popular with
millions across the net.

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 22:10:28 GMT, Ben Thomas <nosp@m.thanks.mate>
wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I have been trying to turn my MiniDV home videos into DVDs but it takes many 
>hours to encode the MPEG for the DVD on my AMD Athlon XP 2700+ with 512MB RAM 
>and 7200RPM hard disk, using Ulead VideoStudio. It seems to take even longer to 
>convert MPEG2 (captured from my digital TV card) into MPEG2 suitable for DVD. 
>I'm guessing CPU is the main problem and there aren't many faster CPU 
>alternatives but please correct me if I'm wrong.
>
>So can I get a PCI card that will do the job for me?
>
>Thanks for any help.
>
>Ben Thomas
>Melbourne
>Australia

Does the Ulead program give you a choice of rendering settings?  If
you choose an output format with the same resolution and frame-rate as
the source, rendering is much faster.   Otherwise EVERY frame has to
be heavily processed.

For instance, here in the UK our dv cameras usually record PAL format.
The default output format in an editing program is often NTSC.
Changing this can drastically reduce rendering time.

mb wrote:
>>Something went amiss. Re-entering should have read rerendering a bit 
>>differant from encoding. If you make cuts add transitions Its a new movie 
>>and need's to be  rendered again 
> 
> 
> NOT with DVD Author it doesn't. Been using it many times over the past
> 2 years. Its the beauty of DVD Author and why iots so popular with
> millions across the net.
> 

I've been using DVD Author for some time and I must assure you it does 
let you cut an already encoded video stream and burn it without 
recoding. Despite common belief, cutting out part of a video does not 
require the video stream to be re-encoded. The video stream is shortened 
by removing any frames within the cut range.