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Re: Hiking in Skirts

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From: Chris Townsend
Date: Fri, 13 Aug 2004 21:53
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In message <7uvpt5vkwse.fsf@ogre1.research.nokia.com>, MB <*@*.*> writes
>Chris Townsend >
>> Unfortunately in my experience radiant barriers in sleeping bags and
>> synthetic filled jackets aren't breathable enough. I've tried several
>> examples of both and found them sweaty (and one of the sleeping bags
>> was quite noisy too). There may be models that perform better of
>> course.
>
>Interesting. If it isn't practical to make radiant
>barriers breathable enough, it seems that they wouldn't
>be a good idea within loft insulation, after all.
>Especially multiple barriers with insufficient
>breathability might act as nasty moisture traps.

I can see in problems in making a radiant barrier breathable enough for 
a sleeping bag or garment.
>
>Otoh, the VBL, which of course mustn't breath at all,
>can well double as a radiant barrier. Incidentally, I
>find that mylar "emergency" bags, especially if bothering
>to modifying the neck area, make good lightweight VBL's.
>Being nominally single-use items, the ones I've used aren't
>very durable though, lasting perhaps a couple of weeks
>of usage. They're noisy too.

I think the noise would put me off. I've had a Rab VBL for several years 
but have always overheated the few times I've used it. If I ever go 
camping in the arctic in midwinter I'll take it.
>
>Otoh, with hermetically sealed loft insulation,
>such as down-air-mats (like Stephenson's), or DAM
>type bag/shelters (Cocoon), lack of breathability is
>of course irrelevant, and multiple radiant barriers
>would seem like a good idea especially for the upper
>parts of the latter.
>
I've never used one a down filled mat.
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Subject: Re: Hiking in Skirts
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