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Big Al wrote

> Packing for a trip to Australia but my walking jacket isn't fully
waterproof
> (as I found to my surprise last weekend!).  I do however have a waterproof
> breatheable ski jacket - is it worth considering taking that instead?  Can
> my walking jacket be somehow made waterproof?

The sort we tend to use down here are the shell type, no padding or lining
as you might have in  a ski jacket.

The shell type is better for temperature regulation. If your walking jacket
is not too leaky, it will do for the routes you have mentioned. Otherwise
break out the plastic, but do it here, quality stuff is heaps cheaper down
under.

Cheers,

JMc

Nikwax makes an excellent range of products for waterproofing and
rewaterproofing garments - for the cost of $15 a bottle.  They calaim that
the  Nikwax TX-10 will waterproof wollen jumpers!!  I used it to waterproof
my photographers vest also to rewaterproof my dry japara.  There are two
formulas - was the garment in the Nikwax Tecwash to get rid of any grime,
then wash/soak in the TX-10.  Smells like PVA glue.  It works.  Just
remember thet the garment must then ONLY be washed in Nikwax Tecwash to keep
the waterproofing.
Hope this helps.

Dave


"John McLaine" <jmclaine@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> Big Al wrote
>
> > Packing for a trip to Australia but my walking jacket isn't fully
> waterproof
> > (as I found to my surprise last weekend!).  I do however have a
waterproof
> > breatheable ski jacket - is it worth considering taking that instead?
Can
> > my walking jacket be somehow made waterproof?
>
> The sort we tend to use down here are the shell type, no padding or lining
> as you might have in  a ski jacket.
>
> The shell type is better for temperature regulation. If your walking
jacket
> is not too leaky, it will do for the routes you have mentioned. Otherwise
> break out the plastic, but do it here, quality stuff is heaps cheaper down
> under.
>
> Cheers,
>
> JMc
>
>
>
>

"Big Al" <alan.sausse@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:b2osh5$1fc9va$1@ID-175092.news.dfncis.de...
> Hmmm.....
>
> Packing for a trip to Australia but my walking jacket isn't fully
waterproof
> (as I found to my surprise last weekend!).  I do however have a waterproof
> breatheable ski jacket - is it worth considering taking that instead?  Can
> my walking jacket be somehow made waterproof?  Or do I just get my credit
> card out..........?
>
> :-(

Just walk in the ACT, we've forgotten what rain even looks like. BLEEDIN
DROUGHT!!!

Trentus

In article <3e5011b2_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, jmclaine@iprimus.com.au 
says...
> The shell type is better for temperature regulation. If your walking jacket
> is not too leaky, it will do for the routes you have mentioned. Otherwise
> break out the plastic, but do it here, quality stuff is heaps cheaper down
> under.

John, as a Tasmanian you must be an expert on wet weather gear :-) I 
will also be in Tasmania later this month and need to replace another 
leaky Gortex jacket (for the fifth time!) Are you able to recommend an 
alternative quality material

SR

Steve Reynolds wrote:

> John, as a Tasmanian you must be an expert on wet weather gear :-)

I'd take offence if it wasn't for the dreadful storm we copped on the Prince
of Wales Range in December. An absolute shocker. I don't want another one
like that for a while. It was a 2-Olympus-rip storm.

> will also be in Tasmania later this month and need to replace another
> leaky Gortex jacket (for the fifth time!) Are you able to recommend an
> alternative quality material

I'd love to be able to help, but I've lost track of the latest options. I'm
currently using an MD long pull-over style gore-tex jacket for most of my
trips.

The man you need is Roger Caffin. He's the undisputed guru when it comes to
outdoor fabrics.

What routes are you planning in Tassie?

Cheers,

John

PS:

If you want to patch this link together in word or notepad, then patch it
into your browser, it will take a short while to compile, then present an
animated view of last December's summer storm:

http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/nmoc/nmocloop.pl?section=nmc&datatype=difacs_a
rchive&area=ARMSL&files=IDX0102.20021201.gif,IDX0354.20021201.gif,IDX0602.20
021201.gif,IDX0854.20021201.gif,IDX0102.20021202.gif,IDX0354.20021202.gif,ID
X0602.20021202.gif,IDX0854.20021202.gif,IDX0102.20021203.gif,IDX0354.2002120
3.gif,IDX0602.20021203.gif,IDX0854.20021203.gif,IDX0102.20021204.gif,IDX0354
.20021204.gif,IDX0602.20021204.gif,IDX0854.20021204.gif,IDX0102.20021205.gif
,IDX0354.20021205.gif,IDX0602.20021205.gif,IDX0854.20021205.gif,IDX0102.2002
1206.gif,IDX0354.20021206.gif,IDX0602.20021206.gif,IDX0854.20021206.gif,IDX0
102.20021207.gif,IDX0354.20021207.gif,IDX0602.20021207.gif,IDX0854.20021207.
gif,

In article <3e50bb0e_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, jmclaine@iprimus.com.au 
says...
> 
> What routes are you planning in Tassie?

Only a week this time, but a return trip to the The Labyrinth. If it 
wasn't for the ants it would be a return trip to paradise :-)

SR

In article <3e50bb0e_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, jmclaine@iprimus.com.au 
says...
> If you want to patch this link together in word or notepad, then patch it
> into your browser, it will take a short while to compile, then present an
> animated view of last December's summer storm:

Looks interesting, particularly from drought affected SA. Did it really 
destroy two Olympus tents?

About 10 years ago I did my wettest ever bushwalk. It was my first 
extended walk in Tasmania, a 10 day club walk in the Central 
Plateau/Wall of Jerusalem area, in February. It has gone down in club 
folklore as the club walk in Tasmania where it only rained once. It 
started raining at lunch time on the first day and it was still raining 
when we walked out 10 days latter!

It was a great introduction to leeches, which I had never encountered 
before!

SR

On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:25:46 +1100, "John McLaine" <jmclaine@iprimus.com.au>
wrote:

>http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/nmoc/nmocloop.pl?section=nmc&datatype=difacs_a
>rchive&area=ARMSL&files=IDX0102.20021201.gif,IDX0354.20021201.gif,IDX0602.20
>021201.gif,IDX0854.20021201.gif,IDX0102.20021202.gif,IDX0354.20021202.gif,ID
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>102.20021207.gif,IDX0354.20021207.gif,IDX0602.20021207.gif,IDX0854.20021207.
>gif,

Has this set a new record for ridiculously lengthy URLs.....?

DS

"David Springthorpe" <david.springthorpe@idx.com.au> wrote in message
news:3e50cf89.24927094@news.cis.dfn.de...
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:25:46 +1100, "John McLaine"
<jmclaine@iprimus.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>
>http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/nmoc/nmocloop.pl?section=nmc&datatype=difacs_
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> >gif,
>
> Has this set a new record for ridiculously lengthy URLs.....?
>
> DS

Yeah....but did ya look? It's not bad!

J.

Steve Reynolds wrote:

>>(last December's summer storm:)

>Looks interesting, particularly from drought affected SA. Did it really
destroy two Olympus tents?

Ripped both Olympus flys. I wouldn't say "destroyed" but ripped them open.
One rip each on consecutive nights. One was re-stitched in the field, the
other rip wasn't so bad, and didn't cause major drama. We had 2 Oly's and my
old Wild Country Hyperspace. The Hyper held together.

>About 10 years ago I did ...my first
extended walk in Tasmania, a 10 day club walk ....it only rained once. It
started raining at lunch time on the first day and it was still raining
when we walked out 10 days latter!

Unlucky player. We do get some nice weather too. Hopefully you'll be lucky
on the Labyrinth.

(> > What routes are you planning in Tassie?)
>
> Only a week this time, but a return trip to the The Labyrinth.

That sounds great. Plenty of time to do some peripheral side trips.

>If it wasn't for the ants it would be a return trip to paradise :-)

It's really odd how the Labyrinth is so rife with ants! Little black ones
and jack-jumpers too.

 I doubt they'll prevent you from having a great walk.

Have fun.

John Mc

"David Springthorpe" <david.springthorpe@idx.com.au> wrote in message
news:3e50cf89.24927094@news.cis.dfn.de...
> On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 20:25:46 +1100, "John McLaine"
<jmclaine@iprimus.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>
>http://www.bom.gov.au/cgi-bin/nmoc/nmocloop.pl?section=nmc&datatype=difacs_
a
>
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0
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> >gif,
>
> Has this set a new record for ridiculously lengthy URLs.....?

Probably not, but all the above could have been replaced with:
http://tinyurl.com/5z3t

Cheers
 JAF

On Mon, 17 Feb 2003 23:28:43 +1100, "John McLaine" <jmclaine@iprimus.com.au>
wrote:

>Yeah....but did ya look? It's not bad!

Not yet - old, slow computer still.....

DS

John A Ferguson wrote

> > Has this set a new record for ridiculously lengthy URLs.....?
>
> Probably not, but all the above could have been replaced with:
> http://tinyurl.com/5z3t
>
> Cheers
>  JAF
>
Thank you John, and please forgive my ignorance. That looks like a handy
service.

J.

"John McLaine" <jmclaine@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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>
> John A Ferguson wrote
>
> > > Has this set a new record for ridiculously lengthy URLs.....?
> >
> > Probably not, but all the above could have been replaced with:
> > http://tinyurl.com/5z3t
> >
> > Cheers
> >  JAF
> >
> Thank you John, and please forgive my ignorance. That looks like a handy
> service.
>
> J.
>
>

Here is another one. I have it on my Links bar in IE6 and when I click on it
it makes a short URL of the page I am viewing, saves a bit of time, no
cutting and pasting.


http://www.makeashorterlink.com/

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> > Has this set a new record for ridiculously lengthy URLs.....?
> >
> > DS
>
> Yeah....but did ya look? It's not bad!

And I suspect the length is due to the fact that the animation is just a
whole pile of .GIF images strung together in a sequence.

Gareth.

> John, as a Tasmanian you must be an expert on wet weather gear :-) I
> will also be in Tasmania later this month and need to replace another
> leaky Gortex jacket (for the fifth time!) Are you able to recommend an
> alternative quality material
>
> SR

Have you heard of Mont's 'Hydronaute' Fabric?  see www.mont.com.au

I haven't actually used it, so can't comment on how good it is, but perhaps
some others have?

Mont has apparently stopped using Goretex in favour of this fabric they
developed themselves.

Of course, one never knows these days whether that is just because Goretex
withdrew their license or not :(

Gareth.

> Have you heard of Mont's 'Hydronaute' Fabric?  see www.mont.com.au
>

> Mont has apparently stopped using Goretex in favour of this fabric
> they developed themselves.

Well, maybe they developed it, but somehow I kinda doubt it.  Mont
aren't prepared to tell us anything about the proofing technology
used, but it appears likely to be a pretty standard microporous
PU membrane.  Micorporous PU has some advantages and disadvantages
compared with Gore's ePTFE membrane - ask the good Doctor Caffin.
The shell is a fairly heavy oxford-weave nylon, like 3-ply GoreTex
- the kind that repels water well when the non-DWR fluoropolymer
coating is brand new, and soaks it up like a sponge for ever
thereafter.  The liner looks like the tricot nylon mesh Gore uses.

I bought one of these recently in Hobart because I couldn't find
the Wilderness Wear "Microfiber" 3-ply polyester / PU jacket I
wanted.  Both are way cheaper than any equivalent Gore product.
It hasn't had a lot of use in serious conditions yet - I'll let
you know how it goes.