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Started by david s-a
Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:10
...and now there will be a limit on the MOI of driver heads....
Author: david s-a
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:10
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 07:10
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".....The MOI of a driver head is a measurement of its resistance to twisting and, therefore, it is an indication of the �forgiveness� of a clubhead. It is proposed that, with effect from 1 March 2006, the MOI component around the vertical axis through the clubhead�s centre of gravity (Izz) is limited to 1.623 Ib in2 (4750 g cm2), plus a test tolerance of 0.017 Ib in2 (50 g cm2). Such a limit would encompass all of the clubs that have so far been submitted to The R&A for evaluation and been determined to conform to the Rules of Golf. Details of the proposed testing equipment and procedures are attached and some submission guidance/information is outlined at the end of this memorandum......." Detailed here:- http://www.randa.org/index.cfm?action=rules.equipment.noticeDetails¬iceid=14 .....and what about the ball??? cheers david
Re: ...and now there will be a limit on the MOI of driver heads....
Author: David Geesaman
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:38
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 12:38
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"david s-a" <dsantwyk@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message
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> ".....The MOI of a driver head is a measurement of its resistance to
> twisting and, therefore, it is an indication of the �forgiveness� of a
> clubhead. It is proposed that, with effect from 1 March 2006, the MOI
> component around the vertical axis through the clubhead�s centre of
> gravity (Izz) is limited to 1.623 Ib in2 (4750 g cm2), plus a test
> tolerance of 0.017 Ib in2 (50 g cm2).
Sounds like a great idea as long as the USGA gets in accordance. That
should limit things, and give the manufacturers time to sell based on
"maximum forgiveness allowed by the rules".
> .....and what about the ball???
You mean the one that's had the same (and effective) distance limit for
years now? You'll have to explain what's wrong with the ball.
Dave
Re: ...and now there will be a limit on the MOI of driver heads....
Author: Kenny Stultz
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:26
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:26
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In article <dmhi4501pcu@news3.newsguy.com>, dgeesamannospam@yahoo.com says... > > >"david s-a" <dsantwyk@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message >news:3v2d6oF13nm0fU1@individual.net... >> ".....The MOI of a driver head is a measurement of its resistance to >> twisting and, therefore, it is an indication of the �forgiveness� of a >> clubhead. It is proposed that, with effect from 1 March 2006, the MOI >> component around the vertical axis through the clubhead�s centre of >> gravity (Izz) is limited to 1.623 Ib in2 (4750 g cm2), plus a test >> tolerance of 0.017 Ib in2 (50 g cm2). > > Sounds like a great idea as long as the USGA gets in accordance. That >should limit things, and give the manufacturers time to sell based on >"maximum forgiveness allowed by the rules". > >> .....and what about the ball??? > > You mean the one that's had the same (and effective) distance limit for >years now? You'll have to explain what's wrong with the ball. > > Dave > > It should have to float. Kenny -- Kenny Stultz - Troll and SPAM intolerant "Golf is the only sport where a precise knowledge of the Rules can earn one a reputation for bad sportsmanship"
Re: ...and now there will be a limit on the MOI of driver heads....
Author: TooManyPutters
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:37
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 14:37
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"David Geesaman" <dgeesamannospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:dmhi4501pcu@news3.newsguy.com... > > "david s-a" <dsantwyk@bigpond.net.au> wrote in message > news:3v2d6oF13nm0fU1@individual.net... >> ".....The MOI of a driver head is a measurement of its resistance to >> twisting and, therefore, it is an indication of the �forgiveness� of a >> clubhead. It is proposed that, with effect from 1 March 2006, the MOI >> component around the vertical axis through the clubhead�s centre of >> gravity (Izz) is limited to 1.623 Ib in2 (4750 g cm2), plus a test >> tolerance of 0.017 Ib in2 (50 g cm2). > This makes no sense to the weekend golfer. But wait! Now Callaway and Taylor Made will have new models out again, and again, and again. I hear prices dropping already........
Re: ...and now there will be a limit on the MOI of driver heads....
Author: david s-a
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:16
Date: Tue, 29 Nov 2005 22:16
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Kenny Stultz wrote: > > It should have to float. Like he said.... :-) "..... recently, in a written 'statement of principles' published jointly by The R&A and the USGA, it was acknowledged that "History has proved that it is impossible to foresee the developments in golf equipment which advancing technology will deliver." However, both The R&A and the USGA remain vigilant when considering the equipment Rules. The main objective of Rules 4 and 5 and Appendices II and III is to protect golf's best traditions, to prevent an over-reliance on technological advances rather than skill, and to ensure that skill is the dominant element of success throughout the game....." (an extract from the 'equipment' section of the R&A website) I personally think that with balls like the ProV1* there is an 'over-reliance on technological advances rather than skill' in order to optimise the capability of the ball. cheers david
Re: ...and now there will be a limit on the MOI of driver heads....
Author: Douglas Siebert
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:11
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 02:11
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david s-a <dsantwyk@bigpond.net.au> writes: >I personally think that with balls like the ProV1* there is an >'over-reliance on technological advances rather than skill' in order to >optimise the capability of the ball. Well, in this respect its at least as much the high MOI clubs that are at fault. Yes, the ball goes too far now, but merely going far doesn't replace skill nearly so much as a ball (and clubs) that help it go straight. It seems so long ago, but it was only 4 1/2 years ago I switched to the Pro V1 and Integra 400cc and suddenly hitting a drive into a 25 mph wind wasn't a big deal anymore. That took a way a hell of a lot more skill requirement in golf than a ball that let me hit a drive 350 on the fly would. But, its good to see the USGA is doing something, even if its as usual waited until its too late. Still remains to be seen if they have the guts to do something about the ball that isn't just another way of saying "well, what we have now is OK I guess, just don't make it any better than that". -- Douglas Siebert dsiebert@excisethis.khamsin.net Give a man a match, and he'll be warm for a minute. Set him on fire, and he'll be warm for the rest of his life.
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