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On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:32:38 +0100, Andy M Jenkins
<andy_nfTORIES@btopenworld.com> wrote:

>It seems that BTYahoo have finally deemed that their unlimited BTYahoo 
>Broadband service must become capped. Although there is good news as 
>well, as it appears theres to be a substantial" reduction in service 
>rental on the cards as well.
>
>http://snipurl.com/2n1k

The site was still there when I viewed it this morning.  I am not a BT
Yahoo customer so it does not concern me over duly.  However should my
current ISP adopt such a policy, it makes me wonder what my Internet
'usage' has been in any 30 day period.

Even if software was available that 'meters' an Internet connection,
the issues of several PCs sharing an Internet connection via a router
introduces a level complexity that might make any meaningful results
difficult to determine.

With BT Yahoo I noticed that when you exceed your monthly usage level
your connection becomes throttled down until  the start of your next
30 day period.  There appeared to be no notification process of the
reduction in service at that point.

It was also observed that this capping would not affect the vast
majority of users; that being the case why not target those extra
heavy users forcing a switch to a higher priced service and not cause
unnecessary worry to the rest?

DAVID BRADLEY

 

"David Bradley" <trolley@spamless.co.uk> wrote in message
news:tu72e0lvhbqrqhp10u797l99dc7sqmt852@4ax.com
> With BT Yahoo I noticed that when you exceed your monthly usage level
> your connection becomes throttled down until  the start of your next
> 30 day period.  There appeared to be no notification process of the
> reduction in service at that point.

A couple of months ago, I put up a video demonstrating BT's "flexible
bandwidth" service - of which this is an example.

At the time (if not now), the idea was to restrict your downloads to 64K
once you had exceeded your bandwidth limit - you were notified of this via a
small software program BT would install in your system tray and/or a web
page...

Of course, their plans could have changed since then.

Regards
Sunil

Andy M Jenkins wrote:

> It seems that BTYahoo have finally deemed that their unlimited BTYahoo 
> Broadband service must become capped. Although there is good news as 
> well, as it appears theres to be a substantial" reduction in service 
> rental on the cards as well.
> 
> http://snipurl.com/2n1k
> 

Small update .. BTYahoo have removed the page in question.

I'm advised that an official announcement is expected tomorrow 
(Wednesday 30th).

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Andy M Jenkins

UK Broadband Usergroup		http://www.uk-bug.net

Tx2 wrote:

> Why doesn't ukbug work under Firefox?

Doesnt it ?  Does here.

> I'm trying to log in, and all i get is a page with "reload" message from 
> Firefox ... ?

Strange.  I've used Firefox fine for a number of months now with bug - 
in fact Firefox has replaced OE as my default browser.

Cookie issue maybe ?

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Andy M Jenkins
UK Broadband Usergroup		http://www.uk-bug.net

Tx2 wrote:
> Odd ..... it's working now, and all i've done is rush downstairs to put 
> the wheelie bin out !!
> 
> oh well ... 

Oh well indeed :)

If you can replicate - let me know and I'll investigate (geez .. sounds 
like I'm still in work !)

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Andy M Jenkins

UK Broadband Usergroup		http://www.uk-bug.net

As I am going over to Broadband in a few months when it becomes
available I downloaded a usage meter from http://www.bmextreme.com

This has been very useful in seeing how much bandwidth I use.

its free as well







On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 09:08:03 +0100, David Bradley
<trolley@spamless.co.uk> wrote:

>On Mon, 28 Jun 2004 22:32:38 +0100, Andy M Jenkins
><andy_nfTORIES@btopenworld.com> wrote:
>
>>It seems that BTYahoo have finally deemed that their unlimited BTYahoo 
>>Broadband service must become capped. Although there is good news as 
>>well, as it appears theres to be a substantial" reduction in service 
>>rental on the cards as well.
>>
>>http://snipurl.com/2n1k
>
>The site was still there when I viewed it this morning.  I am not a BT
>Yahoo customer so it does not concern me over duly.  However should my
>current ISP adopt such a policy, it makes me wonder what my Internet
>'usage' has been in any 30 day period.
>
>Even if software was available that 'meters' an Internet connection,
>the issues of several PCs sharing an Internet connection via a router
>introduces a level complexity that might make any meaningful results
>difficult to determine.
>
>With BT Yahoo I noticed that when you exceed your monthly usage level
>your connection becomes throttled down until  the start of your next
>30 day period.  There appeared to be no notification process of the
>reduction in service at that point.
>
>It was also observed that this capping would not affect the vast
>majority of users; that being the case why not target those extra
>heavy users forcing a switch to a higher priced service and not cause
>unnecessary worry to the rest?
>
>DAVID BRADLEY
>
> 

> Odd ..... it's working now, and all i've done is rush downstairs to put
> the wheelie bin out !!
>
> oh well ...

Perhaps the wheelie bin is interfering with firfox?

On Tue, 29 Jun 2004 16:09:55 +0000 (UTC), IslanderUK 
   <newsgroup@nospam.eifl.org.uk> wrote:

> As I am going over to Broadband in a few months when it becomes
> available I downloaded a usage meter from http://www.bmextreme.com
> 
> This has been very useful in seeing how much bandwidth I use.

As long as you are only using a Wintel computer (Mac, Linux etc. are not
supported).

> its free as well

If you have the 'basic' version, which doesn't support monitoring more
than one computer, ignoring the LAN, etc.).  Otherwise it's US$19.95 for
1-4 computers for the 'home' version, and US$34.95 for the
'professional' one.  Plus licences for each individual computer
monitored.

I'm surprised that none of the 'hardware' firewall/routers seem to have
such stats easily available, it would seem easy enough to do...

Chris C

Note followup.

"Tim Baker" <tim.bakerNOSPAM@NOSPAMsomersetcare.co.uk> wrote in message
news:10e52h9p6inp16a@corp.supernews.com
>> Odd ..... it's working now, and all i've done is rush downstairs to
>> put the wheelie bin out !!
>>
>> oh well ...
>
> Perhaps the wheelie bin is interfering with firfox?

i'm on blueyonder 3mbit service and in a typical month i download 150-200 GB
acording to DU Meter. never realised how much i used it. damn those divx 
films.


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"Andy M Jenkins" <andy_nfTORIES@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
news:ZpqdnWKp27H6E33dRVn-uw@giganews.com...
> It seems that BTYahoo have finally deemed that their unlimited BTYahoo
> Broadband service must become capped. Although there is good news as
> well, as it appears theres to be a substantial" reduction in service
> rental on the cards as well.
>
Nope :-( I don't class a �1 drop per month a substancial reduction as well
as a 15MB usage cap

The e:mail i received:-

BT Yahoo! Broadband subscription
reduced from your next payment
Saving you up to �36 a year
Great news: we've reduced the monthly cost of your BT Yahoo! Broadband
subscription to �26.99 if you pay by Direct Debit, or �27.99 otherwise, so
you can continue to enjoy the true power of broadband from BT for even less!

Save an additional �12 a year with Direct Debit
If you're not already paying by Direct Debit, you could be saving even more.
Change your payment to Direct Debit to save an extra �1 a month - reducing
the cost of your monthly subscription to just �26.99. To change to Direct
Debit, please click here and go to Change/Update BT Payment Details.

Better value - automatically
You needn't do anything - this new lower price will apply from your next
payment.

So that we can continue to offer our best possible price to customers, we'll
be introducing a usage allowance of 15GB of data a month. This is more than
enough for the vast majority of our customers - for example, you can still
download up to 3,000 music tracks every month.

Based on your current usage, you're close to using this monthly allowance.
However, there's no need to worry. Although the change to your Terms &
Conditions is taking place now, the usage allowance will only be applied
from early 2005. At that point, we'll be introducing a number of options for
the few customers who may require additional capacity. We'll be in touch to
tell you more about these options closer to the time.

For more information about these changes, please go to
www.btyahoo.com/newprice

Thank you for choosing BT Yahoo! Broadband - your high-quality service from
BT, now at a lower price.

Best wishes,

BT Yahoo! Broadband team

PS To check out the latest BT Yahoo! Broadband content and services -
including LAUNCHcast music and the new improved email features - please go
to bt.yahoo.com, and log in using

On  1 Jul 2004, in alt.internet.providers.uk, "Alan"  wrote:

>Nope :-( I don't class a �1 drop per month a substancial reduction as well
>as a 15MB usage cap

15 MB seems pretty harsh :-)

I too have received the email from BT.

A few years ago, before the introduction of flat rate charging, my average
bill for a vastly inferior dial up service was around �100 per month. I went
onto BT broadband about 2.5 years ago when the charge was �39.99, shortly
after it was reduced to �29.99. Now there is a smaller reduction to �27.99
or �26.99  by direct debit, with a cap of 15GB per month.

This averages approximately half a gigabyte per day which is a lot of data
for a home user. If you look at the BT site there is an option of upgrading
to a 1mb connection with a 30GB per month cap which is only �29.99. This
seems to me to be very reasonable. Looking at a subsequent thread it seems
another isp who only charges �17.99 per month has a 2GB/month limit.

I've been with BT for three years now and found their service to be
excellent. This contrasts with my previous ISP, Telewest whose service was
pitifully slow, even for dialup, especially during my last few  months with
them. Sometimes it just ground to a halt completely. They just seemed to
bury their heads in the sand and refused to acknowledge there was a problem.
At least while I was on dialup with BT and there was a problem with one of
their exchanges, they provided an alternative number which worked. Since
I've been on broadband, I can't recall having any problems.

-Trevski


"Alan" <alan@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:cc0u0d$3le$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
>
> Nope :-( I don't class a �1 drop per month a substancial reduction as well
> as a 15MB usage cap
>
> The e:mail i received:-
>
> BT Yahoo! Broadband subscription
> reduced from your next payment
> Saving you up to �36 a year
> Great news: we've reduced the monthly cost of your BT Yahoo! Broadband
> subscription to �26.99 if you pay by Direct Debit, or �27.99 otherwise, so
> you can continue to enjoy the true power of broadband from BT for even
less!
>
> Save an additional �12 a year with Direct Debit
> If you're not already paying by Direct Debit, you could be saving even
more.
> Change your payment to Direct Debit to save an extra �1 a month - reducing
> the cost of your monthly subscription to just �26.99. To change to Direct
> Debit, please click here and go to Change/Update BT Payment Details.
>
> Better value - automatically
> You needn't do anything - this new lower price will apply from your next
> payment.
>
> So that we can continue to offer our best possible price to customers,
we'll
> be introducing a usage allowance of 15GB of data a month. This is more
than
> enough for the vast majority of our customers - for example, you can still
> download up to 3,000 music tracks every month.
>
> Based on your current usage, you're close to using this monthly allowance.
> However, there's no need to worry. Although the change to your Terms &
> Conditions is taking place now, the usage allowance will only be applied
> from early 2005. At that point, we'll be introducing a number of options
for
> the few customers who may require additional capacity. We'll be in touch
to
> tell you more about these options closer to the time.
>
> For more information about these changes, please go to
> www.btyahoo.com/newprice
>
> Thank you for choosing BT Yahoo! Broadband - your high-quality service
from
> BT, now at a lower price.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> BT Yahoo! Broadband team
>
> PS To check out the latest BT Yahoo! Broadband content and services -
> including LAUNCHcast music and the new improved email features - please go
> to bt.yahoo.com, and log in using
>
>

"Trevor" <trevski2001@nospam.btinternet.com> wrote in message
news:cc1962$afr$1@titan.btinternet.com
> I too have received the email from BT.
>
> A few years ago, before the introduction of flat rate charging, my
> average bill for a vastly inferior dial up service was around �100
> per month. I went onto BT broadband about 2.5 years ago when the
> charge was �39.99, shortly after it was reduced to �29.99. Now there
> is a smaller reduction to �27.99 or �26.99  by direct debit, with a
> cap of 15GB per month.
>
> This averages approximately half a gigabyte per day which is a lot of
> data for a home user. If you look at the BT site there is an option
> of upgrading to a 1mb connection with a 30GB per month cap which is
> only �29.99. This seems to me to be very reasonable. Looking at a
> subsequent thread it seems another isp who only charges �17.99 per
> month has a 2GB/month limit.
>
> I've been with BT for three years now and found their service to be
> excellent. This contrasts with my previous ISP, Telewest whose
> service was pitifully slow, even for dialup, especially during my
> last few  months with them. Sometimes it just ground to a halt
> completely. They just seemed to bury their heads in the sand and
> refused to acknowledge there was a problem. At least while I was on
> dialup with BT and there was a problem with one of their exchanges,
> they provided an alternative number which worked. Since I've been on
> broadband, I can't recall having any problems.
>
> -Trevski
>
>
> "Alan" <alan@nospam.net> wrote in message
> news:cc0u0d$3le$1@hercules.btinternet.com...
>>
>> Nope :-( I don't class a �1 drop per month a substancial reduction
>> as well as a 15MB usage cap
>>
>> The e:mail i received:-
>>
>> BT Yahoo! Broadband subscription
>> reduced from your next payment
>> Saving you up to �36 a year
>> Great news: we've reduced the monthly cost of your BT Yahoo!
>> Broadband subscription to �26.99 if you pay by Direct Debit, or
>> �27.99 otherwise, so you can continue to enjoy the true power of
>> broadband from BT for even less!
>>
>> Save an additional �12 a year with Direct Debit
>> If you're not already paying by Direct Debit, you could be saving
>> even more. Change your payment to Direct Debit to save an extra �1 a
>> month - reducing the cost of your monthly subscription to just
>> �26.99. To change to Direct Debit, please click here and go to
>> Change/Update BT Payment Details.
>>
>> Better value - automatically
>> You needn't do anything - this new lower price will apply from your
>> next payment.
>>
>> So that we can continue to offer our best possible price to
>> customers, we'll be introducing a usage allowance of 15GB of data a
>> month. This is more than enough for the vast majority of our
>> customers - for example, you can still download up to 3,000 music
>> tracks every month.
>>
>> Based on your current usage, you're close to using this monthly
>> allowance. However, there's no need to worry. Although the change to
>> your Terms & Conditions is taking place now, the usage allowance
>> will only be applied from early 2005. At that point, we'll be
>> introducing a number of options for the few customers who may
>> require additional capacity. We'll be in touch to tell you more
>> about these options closer to the time.
>>
>> For more information about these changes, please go to
>> www.btyahoo.com/newprice
>>
>> Thank you for choosing BT Yahoo! Broadband - your high-quality
>> service from BT, now at a lower price.
>>
>> Best wishes,
>>
>> BT Yahoo! Broadband team
>>
>> PS To check out the latest BT Yahoo! Broadband content and services -
>> including LAUNCHcast music and the new improved email features -
>> please go to bt.yahoo.com, and log in using

i pay �50 a month for 3mbit from blueyonder
NO CAPPING
but crap mail service
oh well you cant have it all i suppose


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"Trevor" <trevski2001@nospam.btinternet.com> wrote in message news:<cc1962$afr$1@titan.btinternet.com>...

> This averages approximately half a gigabyte per day which is a lot of data
> for a home user. If you look at the BT site there is an option of upgrading
> to a 1mb connection with a 30GB per month cap which is only �29.99. This
> seems to me to be very reasonable. Looking at a subsequent thread it seems
> another isp who only charges �17.99 per month has a 2GB/month limit.

Yes but for the same price you can go with freedom2surf
http://www.freedom2surf.net/adsl/home.php and it will cost you �22.50
for an uncapped service at 512k.

Rory