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Re: Roaming question: When do the charges start?

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From: Paco S�nchez
Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2003 12:07
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I must agree with Andrew.  Due to my business I have a number of prepaid
SIMs roaming in Spain and never have been charged for an incoming call
diverted to voicemail while the phone was off.

In theory you would be charged if you have calls forwarded to your voice
mail if no answer, but not when the phone is off.

My experience when the phone is off out of coverage, is that calls are not
diverted to voicemail.  Rather you hear the usual recording from the
operator you are roaming on (for free).

Since operators are aware of this functioning of diverts when roaming, all
diverts are usually automatically turned off when they detect you are on a
foreign network, except when the phone is switched off.

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"Andrew Woodvine" <andrew@woodvine.com> wrote in message
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> On 2/1/03 12:24, in article
35718be1.0301020424.6ce8fe78@posting.google.com,
> "Alan" <thepest1998@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > My family's mobile (GSM) is registered to accept roaming and idd
> > services and they are away for 2 weeks in China and HK.
> >
> > And I have been monitoring the phone charges via my local auto check.
> > The charges keep on shooting up and its incredible.
> >
> > My question is when you are login to a foreign service provider, do
> > they actually charge you even when the phone is switched off?
>
> Assuming that the phone was switched off using the power button when it
was
> logged onto a roaming network, then calls will not leave the home network
> and so you will not be charged.
>
> If the phone was switched off when out of coverage, or switched off by
> removing the battery, then you will be charged for an incoming call and an
> outgoing call back to voicemail (assuming you have a conditional or
> auto-divert to voicemail active) until the time-out period is reached,
which
> is set by your home network.
>
> > I discovered that even when the phone is switch off and when I called
> > that number its ringing but of cause no one answered. Do we have to
> > pay for phone charges even though they did not pick up the phone?
>
> If the phone was not answered and the call was not diverted, then neither
> called party has to pay.
>
> > Any one? Or has our phone been intercepted?
>
> Certainly not.
>
> Andrew Woodvine
>
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