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Re: Roaming question: When do the charges start?

#163
From: Jeremy Quirke
Date: Thu, 02 Jan 2003 15:26
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Explain how GSM hijacking is possible in Asia.

Hijacking of a GSM connection is not possible without either [a] access to
the network operator's equipment or [b] the SIM

All GSM traffic is encrypted at the physical layer, the SRES and Kc are
derived from RAND and Ki, Ki is never transmitted across the link in
encrypted or unencrypted form.

"[BnH]" <b18@iprimus.com.australia> wrote in message
news:3e1444a2$0$190$5a62ac22@freenews.iinet.net.au...
> The charges started the moment you are using foreign provider inside your
> handset to make or receive audio calls [ not text apparently :)
> Vodafone-wise.]
>
> The meter will not run if you do not make or receive a call.
> IF the meter runs even when no one using, maybe someone hijacked your GSM
> signal.
> [ it is very doable over in Asia ]
> Better block it fast !
>
> =bob=
>
> "Alan" <thepest1998@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:35718be1.0301020424.6ce8fe78@posting.google.com...
> > My family's mobile (GSM) is registered to accept roaming and idd
> > services and they are away for 2 weeks in China and HK.
> >
> > And I have been monitoring the phone charges via my local auto check.
> > The charges keep on shooting up and its incredible.
> >
> > My question is when you are login to a foreign service provider, do
> > they actually charge you even when the phone is switched off?
> >
> > I discovered that even when the phone is switch off and when I called
> > that number its ringing but of cause no one answered. Do we have to
> > pay for phone charges even though they did not pick up the phone?
> >
> > Any one? Or has our phone been intercepted?
> >
> > My bill only comes in end of the month. This is the time when an
> > argument is inevitable.
>
>
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From: "Jeremy Quirke" <jquirke@iNOprimSPAMus.com.au>
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