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Frustrated with small phones
#135
Author: Glimmerman
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:42
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Hi I just recently bought one of those cool new small sized phones
(Mototorola T191) - pretty nifty.
My eyesights failing and I'm finding it difficult to use these phones.
There must be some enhancements out there to make life easier for me.
Any suggestions?
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#136
Author: Steven Watts
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:50
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glasses? a monical? magnifing glass?


"Glimmerman" <UlickMcGee99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7106702e.0302130742.247e9082@posting.google.com...
> Hi I just recently bought one of those cool new small sized phones
> (Mototorola T191) - pretty nifty.
> My eyesights failing and I'm finding it difficult to use these phones.
> There must be some enhancements out there to make life easier for me.
> Any suggestions?
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#137
Author: Matt Robertson
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 16:23
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"Glimmerman" <UlickMcGee99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7106702e.0302130742.247e9082@posting.google.com...
> Hi I just recently bought one of those cool new small sized phones
> (Mototorola T191) - pretty nifty.
> My eyesights failing and I'm finding it difficult to use these phones.
> There must be some enhancements out there to make life easier for me.
> Any suggestions?

Don't buy a small phone?
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#138
Author: Larry W4CSC
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:38
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On 13 Feb 2003 07:42:37 -0800, UlickMcGee99@hotmail.com (Glimmerman)
wrote:

>Hi I just recently bought one of those cool new small sized phones
>(Mototorola T191) - pretty nifty.
>My eyesights failing and I'm finding it difficult to use these phones.
>There must be some enhancements out there to make life easier for me.
>Any suggestions?

Yeah, I want my LOUD, BRIGHT bagphone with the BIG BRIGHT LED display
back, too....(c;



Larry W4CSC and other fine old calls since 1957...
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#139
Author: Larry W4CSC
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 17:39
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On Thu, 13 Feb 2003 15:50:18 -0000, "Steven Watts"
<steven.watts@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>glasses? a monical? magnifing glass?
>

Microscope?

Fresnel Lens in leather case?



Larry W4CSC and other fine old calls since 1957...
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#140
Author: Christian Szita
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:03
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"Matt Robertson" <matt_robertson@SPAMMENOTblueyonder.co.uk> escribió en el mensaje news:KDP2a.2766$764.24330414@news-text.cableinet.net...
> 
> "Glimmerman" <UlickMcGee99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7106702e.0302130742.247e9082@posting.google.com...
> > Hi I just recently bought one of those cool new small sized phones
> > (Mototorola T191) - pretty nifty.
> > My eyesights failing and I'm finding it difficult to use these phones.
> > There must be some enhancements out there to make life easier for me.
> > Any suggestions?
> 
> Don't buy a small phone?

Take a Nokia 2160 :)
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#141
Author: kyte
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 18:44
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On 13 Feb 2003 07:42:37 -0800, UlickMcGee99@hotmail.com (Glimmerman)
wrote:

>Hi I just recently bought one of those cool new small sized phones
>(Mototorola T191) - pretty nifty.
>My eyesights failing and I'm finding it difficult to use these phones.
>There must be some enhancements out there to make life easier for me.
>Any suggestions?

dont get small phones.  I learnt the hard way also. (nokia 8310).
there are no enhancements, unless the Blind society has something.  My
eyes arent that bad yet.
--
http://www.hamarana.com
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#142
Author: Mike H
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:13
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"Glimmerman" <> wrote in message ...

> Hi I just recently bought one of those cool new small sized
> phones (Mototorola T191) - pretty nifty.
> My eyesights failing and I'm finding it difficult to use these
> phones. There must be some enhancements out there to
> make life easier for me. Any suggestions?

I can sell you an old Nokia 1610 if you like?

Mike.
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#143
Author: Steven Watts
Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2003 19:32
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would you be more happy with the trigger happy TV phone... HELLO, YEH I AM
IN A NG!!


"Glimmerman" <UlickMcGee99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7106702e.0302130742.247e9082@posting.google.com...
> Hi I just recently bought one of those cool new small sized phones
> (Mototorola T191) - pretty nifty.
> My eyesights failing and I'm finding it difficult to use these phones.
> There must be some enhancements out there to make life easier for me.
> Any suggestions?
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#122
Author: Bert Root
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 00:39
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Prior to the stampede Steven Watts tryped...

> would you be more happy with the trigger happy TV phone... HELLO, YEH
> I AM IN A NG!!

>> My eyesights failing and I'm finding it difficult to use these
>> phones.

Weehee let's take the piss out of a guy losing his sight. Let us know when
anyone else has a debilitating condition and we can rip them for that as
well.

You small minded, miserbale c*nts. Think back to when a member of your
family was getting something that you expected friends, etc. to feel sorry
for and then reconsider the dross you typed above.

All harks back to the saying 'simple things amuse simple minds' I suppose.

--
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Re: Frustrated with small phones
#134
Author: Paul
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:10
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"Steven Watts" <steven.watts@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
news:_aP2a.13690$pZ6.310@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> glasses? a monical? magnifing glass?

a bigger phone......

Paul
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#123
Author: Mike H
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 01:21
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"Bert Root" <> wrote in message ...

> Weehee let's take the piss out of a guy losing his sight.
> Let us know when anyone else has a debilitating
> condition and we can rip them for that as well.
>
> You small minded, miserbale c*nts.

Sorry, you're confusing me for someone that gives a shit.

Mike.
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#124
Author: maroubra
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 03:55
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On Friday "kyte" was talking to Glimmerman about small phones...


G>Hi I just recently bought one of those cool new small sized phones
G>(Mototorola T191) - pretty nifty.
G>My eyesights failing and I'm finding it difficult to use these phones.
G>There must be some enhancements out there to make life easier for me.
G>Any suggestions?

K> dont get small phones.  I learnt the hard way also. (nokia 8310).
K> there are no enhancements, unless the Blind society has something.  My
K> eyes arent that bad yet.

For the record I'm severe low vision myself (6/24, 2/200, restricted field
with nystag etc etc)...


Far as I'm aware, the Royal Blind Society (RBS) of New South Wales
(Australia) Adaptive Tech unit don't have any software to help this (yet!) I
talked to them about this a few months ago, so this might have changed.
Nokia don't have any Adaptive Technology (AT) software solutions yet either


However, a friend of mine put me onto a hard, credit card size +10 diopta
(approx 2.75x magnification) lens. It's hard, and expands like a spy camera.
I usually stick that into a different pocket when carrying a small mobile.
Great for SMS on the run.


However, if that's not your style, a couple of other things to think about:

FOR TODAY:

If you don't like the idea of a magifyer, but you still like a small phone:

* If you can deal with bright, N10 text then check out the new Panasonic
folding phone (see http://www.panasonicmobile.com/frame/a_eng.html). While
not the smallest on the market, it's right up there, and the screen quality
sets a new benchmark. I'm giving that a serious think at the moment. I can
pick up bright N10 text, but at a strain.

* A dodgier solution: Thought about using the Hangspring Treo with a program
called TealMagnify (though I haven't tested this). This will enlarge to N16
(tops!). However, TealMagnify doesn't work like PC enlargement programs in
the fact you can either view (in big print) or interact (in small print)...

but...
FOR THE (possible) FUTURE:

* The newer phones from Nokia and SonyEric. support downloadable programs. I
haven't seen any adaptive tech programs for these platforms yet, but big
print is a feature that low vision people (and voice synth for that matter)
for a long time... This may provide the facility to upgrade the
manufacturer's phone.



Hope this helps!

Willing to lend a hand on this, Adaptive Technology is close to my heart.


M.

PS For the other readers and posters: My mates make jokes about my vision
impairement all the time, and I think it's great. (for instance, M starts
the night blind, even before he's had anything to drink!)

And yes, some of you were right with the suggested 'larger phone' solution.

However, if it's possible, and their is an opportunity, and it doesn't cause
too much stress, then why shouldn't a vision impaired person have the same
choices (within reason) as a fully sighted person. There **is** enlargement
programs for other platforms, if this guy chooses a smaller phone, why
should it be denied to him because of something outside of his control.  He
also might not want to 'flaunt' his vision impairment to all and sundry,
similiar to how other minorities also choose to keep their differences
descreet from time to time.

Don't mean to get upset or anything over this, just wanting to celebrate how
good mates sometimes take the mickey (which is healthy) but balance that
against at least trying to give everyone a fair go.
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#125
Author: John Leister
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 05:52
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Trouble is not many phone manufacturers make phones
that are large.  The biggest phone I have is an old 1630
which is dead but when it was working it was a joy to
use ad it had large characters on the screen very easy
to read etc. etc.

I'm coping with my current phone but only just.....
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#126
Author: Carl.
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 06:28
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Have you tried the Nokia 6300 series?

"Glimmerman" <UlickMcGee99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7106702e.0302130742.247e9082@posting.google.com...
> Hi I just recently bought one of those cool new small sized phones
> (Mototorola T191) - pretty nifty.
> My eyesights failing and I'm finding it difficult to use these phones.
> There must be some enhancements out there to make life easier for me.
> Any suggestions?
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#127
Author: Rod Speed
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 07:56
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John Leister <fyrdemon@senet.com.au> wrote in
message news:3E4C8438.BB61FABF@senet.com.au...

> Trouble is not many phone manufacturers make
> phones that are large.  The biggest phone I have
> is an old 1630 which is dead but when it was
> working it was a joy to use ad it had large characters
> on the screen very easy to read etc. etc.

> I'm coping with my current phone but only just.....

You were warned about the consequences of your wanking.

You wouldnt listen...

Do the decent thing and top yourself forthwith.
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#128
Author: Matthew Haigh
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 08:15
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In article <3e4c68bc$1_1@news.iprimus.com.au>, maroubra 
<no@spam.thanks.com> writes
>For the record I'm severe low vision myself (6/24, 2/200, restricted field
>with nystag etc etc)...

<snip>
>* If you can deal with bright, N10 text then check out the new Panasonic
>folding phone (see http://www.panasonicmobile.com/frame/a_eng.html). While
>not the smallest on the market, it's right up there, and the screen quality
>sets a new benchmark. I'm giving that a serious think at the moment. I can
>pick up bright N10 text, but at a strain.


Just as a matter of interest, how big is N10 text? Have you looked at 
the more recent Ericsson/ Sony Ericsson phones (from T39/R520 onwards) 
that let you choose a large font? With the ability to change "themes" 
you can change the background/foreground colours as well, so you can 
try to optimise the contrast, though I'm not sure how you can define 
your own rather than the few presets that come with it.

Matt
-- 
Matthew Haigh --$matthaigh{News03}$@haigh.org--
GCRSoft, providing SMS solutions since 1996...
http://www.gcrsoft.com  - SMSMaster messaging software
http://www.moretext.com - managed SMS, including bulk & incoming
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#129
Author: Unimobiles.com
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 09:50
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On 13 Feb 2003 07:42:37 -0800, UlickMcGee99@hotmail.com (Glimmerman)
wrote:

>Hi I just recently bought one of those cool new small sized phones
>(Mototorola T191) - pretty nifty.
>My eyesights failing and I'm finding it difficult to use these phones.
>There must be some enhancements out there to make life easier for me.
>Any suggestions?

The solution is an older, larger phone

http://www.unimobiles.com/usedphones.htm

Regards

-- 
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New and refurbished mobile phones, Unlocking, Repairs & Insurance.
Fax: 07020 972 968 Mailing list : unimobiles-subscribe@yahoogroups.com
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#130
Author: Albinus
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 10:11
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This is no use to you now obviously, but the old adage "Try before you buy"
is very relevant. I was considering a T191 until I found I couldn't hit the
right keys without a 25% error rate. The Nokia 8250 has small keys as well,
but my hands seem to take to it like a duck to water. It's all about
personal preference.

Albinus.
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#131
Author: Jason
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 10:46
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"Unimobiles.com" <sales@NOJUNKMAIL.unimobiles.com> wrote in message
news:2vep4vcrbeao2c69ofv56bg5hb54u9h1rm@4ax.com...
> On 13 Feb 2003 07:42:37 -0800, UlickMcGee99@hotmail.com (Glimmerman)
> wrote:
>
> >Hi I just recently bought one of those cool new small sized phones
> >(Mototorola T191) - pretty nifty.
> >My eyesights failing and I'm finding it difficult to use these phones.
> >There must be some enhancements out there to make life easier for me.
> >Any suggestions?
>
> The solution is an older, larger phone
>
> http://www.unimobiles.com/usedphones.htm
>
> Regards
>
> --
> http://www.unimobiles.com
> New and refurbished mobile phones, Unlocking, Repairs & Insurance. Plus
Free Spam Now available (until we work out how to charge for it).
> Fax: 07020 972 968 Mailing list : unimobiles-subscribe@yahoogroups.com

You are such a prick, you are just trying to flog your knackered old phones,
when none of them would be as large or clear as a 6310i.

Regards
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#132
Author: eggster2k
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:09
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Stop taking piss out of the 6310 Jason.


On Fri, 14 Feb 2003 20:11:30 +1000, "Albinus" <albinus@spam-this.com>
wrote:

>This is no use to you now obviously, but the old adage "Try before you buy"
>is very relevant. I was considering a T191 until I found I couldn't hit the
>right keys without a 25% error rate. The Nokia 8250 has small keys as well,
>but my hands seem to take to it like a duck to water. It's all about
>personal preference.
>
>Albinus.
>
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#133
Author: Jason
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 11:32
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"eggster2k" <eggster2k@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Stop taking piss out of the 6310 Jason.
>

Fail to see how i was taking the piss out of the 6310.

If you learnt how to post and quote, you would have been able to quote the
part of my post where i was taking the piss.

Regards
Re: Frustrated with small phones
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Author: Kalico
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 13:55
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John Leister <fyrdemon@senet.com.au> wrote in message news:<3E4C8438.BB61FABF@senet.com.au>...
> Trouble is not many phone manufacturers make phones
> that are large.  The biggest phone I have is an old 1630
> which is dead but when it was working it was a joy to
> use ad it had large characters on the screen very easy
> to read etc. etc.
> 
> I'm coping with my current phone but only just.....

I had to get my old Siemens S10 (I think its an S10) out of the drawer
when my phone packed up recently.  I have to say it was a joy to use
and the call clarity was superb.  There seemed something right about
holding it in my hand and the microphone actually being near my mouth
rather than feeling like I was scratching my ear and the mike being
god knows where.

BUT, it looks ridiculous now, although it is still slimmer than many
phones on the market now.

My feeling is that phones will get bigger again as people demand
better screens and a small Qwerty keyboard on their phone, plus the
camera of course.
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#112
Author: John Owens
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 15:41
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> "Glimmerman" <UlickMcGee99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7106702e.0302130742.247e9082@posting.google.com...
> > Hi I just recently bought one of those cool new small sized phones
> > (Mototorola T191) - pretty nifty.
> > My eyesights failing and I'm finding it difficult to use these phones.
> > There must be some enhancements out there to make life easier for me.
> > Any suggestions?
>
>
I have an Ericsson A1018S that my son uses. His eyesight is perfect an he
doesn't need the very clear buttons and display. He does like it though but
I could persuade him to be public spirited and swap with you.

--


~~~~~~~John Owens

Fax 44 1509 89 08 22
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#113
Author: Rod Speed
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 18:43
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"Kalico" <rd@kalico.org> wrote in message news:ee1a5043.0302140555.40290bb4@posting.google.com...
> John Leister <fyrdemon@senet.com.au> wrote in message news:<3E4C8438.BB61FABF@senet.com.au>...
> > Trouble is not many phone manufacturers make phones
> > that are large.  The biggest phone I have is an old 1630
> > which is dead but when it was working it was a joy to
> > use ad it had large characters on the screen very easy
> > to read etc. etc.
> >
> > I'm coping with my current phone but only just.....
>
> I had to get my old Siemens S10 (I think its an S10) out of the drawer
> when my phone packed up recently.  I have to say it was a joy to use
> and the call clarity was superb.  There seemed something right about
> holding it in my hand and the microphone actually being near my mouth
> rather than feeling like I was scratching my ear and the mike being
> god knows where.
>
> BUT, it looks ridiculous now, although it is still slimmer than many
> phones on the market now.
>
> My feeling is that phones will get bigger again as people demand
> better screens and a small Qwerty keyboard on their phone,

The Nokia 5510 was that. It flopped very spectacularly indeed.

> plus the camera of course.
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#114
Author: Marc Sindell
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 19:49
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"Glimmerman" <UlickMcGee99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:7106702e.0302130742.247e9082@posting.google.com...
> Hi I just recently bought one of those cool new small sized phones
> (Mototorola T191) - pretty nifty.
> My eyesights failing and I'm finding it difficult to use these phones.
> There must be some enhancements out there to make life easier for me.
> Any suggestions?

Not familar with the T191, but sometimes legibilty is not just about size,
but also about brightness, contrast, shading, type of fonts, etc.

You might find one of the new high-res color screens more readable.
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#115
Author: Marc Cornelius
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 21:34
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In message <7106702e.0302130742.247e9082@posting.google.com>, Glimmerman 
<UlickMcGee99@hotmail.com> writes
>Hi I just recently bought one of those cool new small sized phones
>(Mototorola T191) - pretty nifty.
>My eyesights failing and I'm finding it difficult to use these phones.
>There must be some enhancements out there to make life easier for me.
>Any suggestions?

I don't have any suggestions I'm afraid.

Given that the populations of Europe, the US and Japan are ageing (i.e. 
there is a greater, and increasing, proportion of people over 65) I'm 
surprised that the handset manufacturers aren't addressing these sorts 
of issues. Not that I'm suggesting you're old ;-) Many of the usability 
issues that oldies have are shared by younger people with 
'disabilities'.

I find it strange that virtually all companies seem to be pouring more 
and more resources into the ever shrinking* youth market. For example 
the BBC and its new digital channels: CBeebies for the very young, CBBC 
for the younger teenagers and BBC3 for those in their 20's and early 
30's.


-- 
Marc Cornelius
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#116
Author: Sunny
Date: Fri, 14 Feb 2003 23:26
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Just wait util they install phones in your little finger, and a fax under your tongue :-)

"Steven Watts" <steven.watts@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message news:_aP2a.13690$pZ6.310@news-binary.blueyonder.co.uk...
> glasses? a monical? magnifing glass?
> 
> 
> "Glimmerman" <UlickMcGee99@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:7106702e.0302130742.247e9082@posting.google.com...
> > Hi I just recently bought one of those cool new small sized phones
> > (Mototorola T191) - pretty nifty.
> > My eyesights failing and I'm finding it difficult to use these phones.
> > There must be some enhancements out there to make life easier for me.
> > Any suggestions?
> 
>
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#117
Author: Rod Speed
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 00:21
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Marc Cornelius <cornelius@vercor.demon.co.uk> wrote in
message news:MuOz7XJZDWT+Ewb6@vercor.demon.co.uk...
> Glimmerman <UlickMcGee99@hotmail.com> writes

>> I just recently bought one of those cool new small
>> sized phones (Mototorola T191) - pretty nifty.
>> My eyesights failing and I'm finding it difficult
>> to use these phones. There must be some
>> enhancements out there to make life easier for me.
>> Any suggestions?

Get a seeing eye dog that knows how to use a mobile phone.

> I don't have any suggestions I'm afraid.

> Given that the populations of Europe, the US and Japan are ageing
> (i.e. there is a greater, and increasing, proportion of people over 65)

Who dont actually use mobile phones all that much...

> I'm surprised that the handset manufacturers
> aren't addressing these sorts of issues.

In some respects they are like with voice dialing.

Tho its very doubtful how many of the geriatrics
will bother with that sort of new fangled stuff.

> Not that I'm suggesting you're old ;-)

Careful, he'll beat you to death with his
walking frame if you dont watch out.

> Many of the usability issues that oldies have
> are shared by younger people with 'disabilities'.

They should just be gassed.

> I find it strange that virtually all companies seem to be pouring
> more and more resources into the ever shrinking* youth market.

They do that for a reason. Its those stupid enough to piss heaps
of money against the wall on stupid use of mobile phones.

> For example the BBC and its new digital channels:
> CBeebies for the very young, CBBC for the younger
> teenagers and BBC3 for those in their 20's and early 30's.

Presumably even the BBC has noticed that those groups spend
quite a bit of their time as couch potatoes and that the geriatrics
have been pretty well supplied with soaps and shit for decades now.
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#118
Author: James Knott
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 00:41
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Larry W4CSC wrote:

> Yeah, I want my LOUD, BRIGHT bagphone with the BIG BRIGHT LED display
> back, too....(c;
> 

Was that the one with the crank on the side?  ;-)

-- 

Fundamentalism is fundamentally wrong.

To reply to this message, replace everything to the left of "@" with 
james.knott.
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#119
Author: John Leister
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 00:52
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Rod Speed wrote:

> "Kalico" <rd@kalico.org> wrote in message news:ee1a5043.0302140555.40290bb4@posting.google.com...
> > John Leister <fyrdemon@senet.com.au> wrote in message news:<3E4C8438.BB61FABF@senet.com.au>...
> > > Trouble is not many phone manufacturers make phones
> > > that are large.  The biggest phone I have is an old 1630
> > > which is dead but when it was working it was a joy to
> > > use ad it had large characters on the screen very easy
> > > to read etc. etc.
> > >
> > > I'm coping with my current phone but only just.....
> >
> > I had to get my old Siemens S10 (I think its an S10) out of the drawer
> > when my phone packed up recently.  I have to say it was a joy to use
> > and the call clarity was superb.  There seemed something right about
> > holding it in my hand and the microphone actually being near my mouth
> > rather than feeling like I was scratching my ear and the mike being
> > god knows where.
> >
> > BUT, it looks ridiculous now, although it is still slimmer than many
> > phones on the market now.
> >
> > My feeling is that phones will get bigger again as people demand
> > better screens and a small Qwerty keyboard on their phone,
>
> The Nokia 5510 was that. It flopped very spectacularly indeed.



How so?

I thought it was quite popular in it's time..........
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#120
Author: John Leister
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 00:53
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Sunny wrote:

> Just wait util they install phones in your little finger, and a 
> fax under your tongue :-)



ROFL




Although a wristwatch phone would be very cool. I'd not say
no to that.

Does the tech for that exist now or are wanky cameras going
to be the trend?
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#121
Author: Michael J
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 01:16
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"John Leister" <fyrdemon@senet.com.au> wrote in message
news:3E4D8F61.8FB812CF@senet.com.au...
> Rod Speed wrote:
>
> > "Kalico" <rd@kalico.org> wrote in message
news:ee1a5043.0302140555.40290bb4@posting.google.com...
> > > John Leister <fyrdemon@senet.com.au> wrote in message
news:<3E4C8438.BB61FABF@senet.com.au>...
> > > > Trouble is not many phone manufacturers make phones
> > > > that are large.  The biggest phone I have is an old 1630
> > > > which is dead but when it was working it was a joy to
> > > > use ad it had large characters on the screen very easy
> > > > to read etc. etc.
> > > >
> > > > I'm coping with my current phone but only just.....
> > >
> > > I had to get my old Siemens S10 (I think its an S10) out of the drawer
> > > when my phone packed up recently.  I have to say it was a joy to use
> > > and the call clarity was superb.  There seemed something right about
> > > holding it in my hand and the microphone actually being near my mouth
> > > rather than feeling like I was scratching my ear and the mike being
> > > god knows where.
> > >
> > > BUT, it looks ridiculous now, although it is still slimmer than many
> > > phones on the market now.
> > >
> > > My feeling is that phones will get bigger again as people demand
> > > better screens and a small Qwerty keyboard on their phone,
> >
> > The Nokia 5510 was that. It flopped very spectacularly indeed.
>
>
>
> How so?
>
> I thought it was quite popular in it's time..........

5510, not 5110

The 5510 was and is a flop
>
>
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#110
Author: Rod Speed
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 02:56
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"John Leister" <fyrdemon@senet.com.au> wrote in message news:3E4D8F61.8FB812CF@senet.com.au...
> Rod Speed wrote:
>
> > "Kalico" <rd@kalico.org> wrote in message news:ee1a5043.0302140555.40290bb4@posting.google.com...
> > > John Leister <fyrdemon@senet.com.au> wrote in message news:<3E4C8438.BB61FABF@senet.com.au>...
> > > > Trouble is not many phone manufacturers make phones
> > > > that are large.  The biggest phone I have is an old 1630
> > > > which is dead but when it was working it was a joy to
> > > > use ad it had large characters on the screen very easy
> > > > to read etc. etc.
> > > >
> > > > I'm coping with my current phone but only just.....
> > >
> > > I had to get my old Siemens S10 (I think its an S10) out of the drawer
> > > when my phone packed up recently.  I have to say it was a joy to use
> > > and the call clarity was superb.  There seemed something right about
> > > holding it in my hand and the microphone actually being near my mouth
> > > rather than feeling like I was scratching my ear and the mike being
> > > god knows where.
> > >
> > > BUT, it looks ridiculous now, although it is still slimmer than many
> > > phones on the market now.
> > >
> > > My feeling is that phones will get bigger again as people demand
> > > better screens and a small Qwerty keyboard on their phone,

>> The Nokia 5510 was that. It flopped very spectacularly indeed.

> How so?

> I thought it was quite popular in it's time..........

Fraid not, it flopped very spectacularly indeed.
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#109
Author: Simon C
Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 13:55
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Kalico dropped the following pearls of wisdom:
> My feeling is that phones will get bigger again as people demand
> better screens and a small Qwerty keyboard on their phone, plus the
> camera of course.

The NEC e808, one of Three's 3g launch handsets, is a perfect example of
this.  A clamshell design with a small qwerty built in.  Looks a very
peculiar shape though from the pictures I've seen - quite awkward to hold by
the look of things.

--
Simon C
"A closed mouth gathers no foot"
(Remove My Pants to reply be e-mail)
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#107
Author: Martin Crosbie
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 18:38
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"John Leister" <fyrdemon@senet.com.au> wrote in message
news:3E4D8FA4.FFD8E2A0@senet.com.au...


> Although a wristwatch phone would be very cool. I'd not say
> no to that.
>
> Does the tech for that exist now or are wanky cameras going
> to be the trend?


I think several watch size phones have been demoed at several tech fairs for
some years, so tech wise, yes. however fashion always seems to prevail, so
expect more cameras.

cameras = MMS = ripoff MMS charges by the operator - you do the math. :-)
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#108
Author: Pete Fisher
Date: Mon, 17 Feb 2003 19:21
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check out the samsung S-100 at www.phonescoop.com.  Only in testing
phase and no projected launch date.

"Martin Crosbie" <MartincrosbieDONTBOTHER@vodafone.net> wrote in article
<b2ra33$elh$1@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>:
> 
> "John Leister" <fyrdemon@senet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:3E4D8FA4.FFD8E2A0@senet.com.au...
> 
> 
> > Although a wristwatch phone would be very cool. I'd not say
> > no to that.
> >
> > Does the tech for that exist now or are wanky cameras going
> > to be the trend?
> 
> 
> I think several watch size phones have been demoed at several tech fairs for
> some years, so tech wise, yes. however fashion always seems to prevail, so
> expect more cameras.
> 
> cameras = MMS = ripoff MMS charges by the operator - you do the math. :-)
> 
> 

[posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#105
Author: Korbin Dallas
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 08:07
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Martin Crosbie wrote:

> "John Leister" <fyrdemon@senet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:3E4D8FA4.FFD8E2A0@senet.com.au...
>
> > Although a wristwatch phone would be very cool. I'd not say
> > no to that.
> >
> > Does the tech for that exist now or are wanky cameras going
> > to be the trend?
>
> I think several watch size phones have been demoed at several tech fairs for
> some years, so tech wise, yes. however fashion always seems to prevail, so
> expect more cameras.
>
> cameras = MMS = ripoff MMS charges by the operator - you do the math. :-)




I know......

And the thing is people go nuts with these things then
have fits at the end of the month when the bill comes...
Re: Frustrated with small phones
#106
Author: Martin Crosbie
Date: Tue, 18 Feb 2003 12:56
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"Pete Fisher" <peter.fisher@verizonwireless.com> wrote in message
news:v52dh21ed01mac@corp.supernews.com...
> check out the samsung S-100 at www.phonescoop.com.  Only in testing
> phase and no projected launch date.
>

very cool, I want one - just without the samsung badge :-)
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