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"D. T. Green" <greendt@mail.invalid> wrote in message 
news:jr2vf3$4s3$1@dont-email.me...
> In the same room as the Modem we charge up our mobile phones. We recently 
> changed one of the mobile phones from the Orange Network to the Asda 
> Network (Vodaphone).  Could this change of network be a possibility for an 
> unreliable wireless connection?

I don't have any expert knowledge on this but I know that mobile phones 
periodically update themselves with the network.  I have a Vodafone Sure 
Signal device which provides a 3G signal in the home and in the FAQs in the 
set-up leaflet it states that "... if the Sure Signal is situated too close 
to your Wi-Fi router this can occasionally affect the range of the Wi-Fi." 
The solution is to put as much distance as you can between router and Sure 
Signal or, in your case, the mobile phone.  A 3G signal is 2.1 Ghz (I think) 
and a wi-fi 2.4 Ghz.

Removing the mobile phones altogether might be the best plan and see what 
happens. 

I doubt that the mobile phones are doing anything to the router. I have 
mobile phone and wireless router in the same location with no problems.

On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 21:18:40 +0100, "D. T. Green"
<greendt@mail.invalid> wrote:

>Our years old Belking Modem Router has become unreliable with it sometimes 
>connecting wirelessly and sometimes not. So we recently bought a Netgear 
>Modem Router and it's showing the same behaviour.
>
>In the same room as the Modem we charge up our mobile phones. We recently 
>changed one of the mobile phones from the Orange Network to the Asda Network 
>(Vodaphone).  Could this change of network be a possibility for an 
>unreliable wireless connection? 
>

I doubt it, voda handsets transmit on 1.7 GHz for UMTS and 1.7 or
900MHz for GSM/GPRS
Common wifi is 2.4GHz

Anyway its easy enough to prove it one way or another, charge your
phone somewhere else for a few days.

Keep your WiFi and DECT equipment away from your satellite box and
dish cable, I've often seen interference to satellite reception from
these devices.

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

In message <8JydnQ6hGOvgjUjSnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Big Steel 
<YouCanRun111277@ButYouCannotHide111277.com> writes
>I doubt that the mobile phones are doing anything to the router. I have 
>mobile phone and wireless router in the same location with no problems.
>
It's certainly possible for the signal from any RF transmitter to get 
into all sorts of electronic equipment, and interfere with their correct 
operation.

If you've had a mobile phone near (say) an audio amplifier or radio 
receiver, you will have probably heard the 'rattattattat' sound as the 
phone occasionally checks in with the base station (especially if it's 
in a weak signal area, and it needs to transmit at full power in order 
for the base station to hear it).

Modems and routers can also be affected (but, of course, you don't hear 
the noise). The only way to check is see if you get the same problems 
when the phones are switched off. Note that some chargers themselves 
emit a lot of RF interference, so you may need to switch these off too.
-- 
Ian

On 6/10/2012 5:58 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:
> In message <8JydnQ6hGOvgjUjSnZ2dnUVZ_qGdnZ2d@earthlink.com>, Big Steel
> <YouCanRun111277@ButYouCannotHide111277.com> writes
>> I doubt that the mobile phones are doing anything to the router. I
>> have mobile phone and wireless router in the same location with no
>> problems.
>>
> It's certainly possible for the signal from any RF transmitter to get
> into all sorts of electronic equipment, and interfere with their correct
> operation.
>
> If you've had a mobile phone near (say) an audio amplifier or radio
> receiver, you will have probably heard the 'rattattattat' sound as the
> phone occasionally checks in with the base station (especially if it's
> in a weak signal area, and it needs to transmit at full power in order
> for the base station to hear it).
>
> Modems and routers can also be affected (but, of course, you don't hear
> the noise). The only way to check is see if you get the same problems
> when the phones are switched off. Note that some chargers themselves
> emit a lot of RF interference, so you may need to switch these off too.

I don't have any problems with this ever.

On 6/10/2012 5:58 PM, Ian Jackson wrote:

> If you've had a mobile phone near (say) an audio amplifier or radio
> receiver, you will have probably heard the 'rattattattat' sound as the
> phone occasionally checks in with the base station (especially if it's
> in a weak signal area, and it needs to transmit at full power in order
> for the base station to hear it).
>
Years ago, when sitting next to the switchboard for my office, I 
discovered that I could tell when I was about to receive a call on my 
mobile, because the switchboard would make noises shortly before my 
phone rang.

On Sun, 10 Jun 2012 17:23:57 -0400, Big Steel
<YouCanRun111277@ButYouCannotHide111277.com> wrote:

>I doubt that the mobile phones are doing anything to the router. I have 
>mobile phone and wireless router in the same location with no problems.
>
Up there in Cleveland I guess you have a cellphone and a "r-out-er"

-- 
Graham.
%Profound_observation%

On 10/06/2012 21:18, D. T. Green wrote:
> Our years old Belking Modem Router has become unreliable with it sometimes
> connecting wirelessly and sometimes not. So we recently bought a Netgear
> Modem Router and it's showing the same behaviour.
>
> In the same room as the Modem we charge up our mobile phones. We recently
> changed one of the mobile phones from the Orange Network to the Asda Network
> (Vodaphone).  Could this change of network be a possibility for an
> unreliable wireless connection?
>
>

So when you refer to you BELKIN router connecting wirelessly I'm 
guessing what you really mean is the device(s) you use wireless is 
losing connection to it?

If the phones were beside the router then I guess they might cause a 
problem but not just being in the same room. Simple test, move the 
phones to another room!

On 10/06/2012 21:32, JoRob64 wrote:
>
> "D. T. Green" <greendt@mail.invalid> wrote in message
> news:jr2vf3$4s3$1@dont-email.me...
>> In the same room as the Modem we charge up our mobile phones. We
>> recently changed one of the mobile phones from the Orange Network to
>> the Asda Network (Vodaphone). Could this change of network be a
>> possibility for an unreliable wireless connection?
>
> I don't have any expert knowledge on this but I know that mobile phones

Well, reading the rest of your message certainly confirms that statement..

> periodically update themselves with the network. I have a Vodafone Sure
> Signal device which provides a 3G signal in the home and in the FAQs in
> the set-up leaflet it states that "... if the Sure Signal is situated
> too close to your Wi-Fi router this can occasionally affect the range of
> the Wi-Fi." The solution is to put as much distance as you can between
> router and Sure Signal or, in your case, the mobile phone. A 3G signal
> is 2.1 Ghz (I think) and a wi-fi 2.4 Ghz.
>
> Removing the mobile phones altogether might be the best plan and see
> what happens.

In message <jr2vf3$4s3$1@dont-email.me>, D. T. Green 
<greendt@mail.invalid> wrote
>Our years old Belking Modem Router has become unreliable with it sometimes
>connecting wirelessly and sometimes not. So we recently bought a Netgear
>Modem Router and it's showing the same behaviour.
>
>In the same room as the Modem we charge up our mobile phones. We recently
>changed one of the mobile phones from the Orange Network to the Asda Network
>(Vodaphone).  Could this change of network be a possibility for an
>unreliable wireless connection?
>

More likely a wall wart power supply failing and radiating RF.

-- 
Alan
news2009 {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk

In message <MkWAlJBrGh2PFwlo@amac.f2s.com>, Alan 
<junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> writes
>In message <jr2vf3$4s3$1@dont-email.me>, D. T. Green 
><greendt@mail.invalid> wrote
>>Our years old Belking Modem Router has become unreliable with it sometimes
>>connecting wirelessly and sometimes not. So we recently bought a Netgear
>>Modem Router and it's showing the same behaviour.
>>
>>In the same room as the Modem we charge up our mobile phones. We recently
>>changed one of the mobile phones from the Orange Network to the Asda Network
>>(Vodaphone).  Could this change of network be a possibility for an
>>unreliable wireless connection?
>>
>
>More likely a wall wart power supply failing and radiating RF.
>
Indeed it could be - but the #1 suspect is likely to be the RF 
transmitted from the phones. I understand that this used to be 2 or 3 
watts, but that these days it is 0.6watts. Mind you, my 50W on the 
3.5MHz amateur radio band used to kill my modem/router connection. The 
usual ferrite ring chokes etc had no effect. I eventually cured the 
problem by re-routing the phone line.
-- 
Ian