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Started by Carl Rogers
Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:37
Analysing a left-reverse curve
Author: Carl Rogers
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:37
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:37
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Hi All, A left-reverse curve is nothing uncommon. When space is tight, the curve helps maintain the continuity of a through-road. What's uncommon is if the reverse-curve has narrower roadwidth than the two connecting straightaways, is unable to accomodate parallel parking, and whose length is barely enough to fit a freight truck. For demonstration: http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com/tmp/left-reverse.html Cheers, Carl Rogers "Adding human experience to highway enthusiasm" ******** Calrog.com, http://www.calrog.com : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ An integrated media arm in Turn-of-the-Century PC Development, International Highway Research, and Interpersonal Psychology. Has served your home country and ninety-seven of its worldwide neighbours since 2000, through Internet downstream and published works. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/calrog ********
Re: Analysing a left-reverse curve
Author: MLOM
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:54
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:54
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On Jul 11, 10:37 pm, "Carl Rogers" <postmas...@calrog.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > A left-reverse curve is nothing uncommon. When space is tight, the curve > helps maintain the continuity of a through-road. What's uncommon is if the > reverse-curve has narrower roadwidth than the two connecting straightaways, > is unable to accomodate parallel parking, and whose length is barely enough > to fit a freight truck. For demonstration: > > http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com/tmp/left-reverse.html > > Cheers, > > Carl Rogers > "Adding human experience to highway enthusiasm" > ******** > Calrog.com,http://www.calrog.com: > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > An integrated media arm in Turn-of-the-Century PC Development, International > Highway Research, and Interpersonal Psychology. Has served your home > country and ninety-seven of its worldwide neighbours since 2000, through > Internet downstream and published works. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/calrog > ******** Where did you find that? It sounds oddly like a stunt MoDOT might do.
Re: Analysing a left-reverse curve
Author: Steve A.
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:58
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 03:58
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On Jul 11, 11:37 pm, "Carl Rogers" <postmas...@calrog.com> wrote: > Hi All, > > A left-reverse curve is nothing uncommon. When space is tight, the curve > helps maintain the continuity of a through-road. What's uncommon is if the > reverse-curve has narrower roadwidth than the two connecting straightaways, > is unable to accomodate parallel parking, and whose length is barely enough > to fit a freight truck. For demonstration: > Actually, it is very common for a curve to be narrower than the straightaways, because it has to be curving around something, and that something can impose a barrier on how wide the road can be. It is also very common to not have parallel parking on a reverse curve, or even on a straightaway for that matter. I'm not clicking your link to glorify your site hits (and I'm sure you boost your own site hit count whenever you can via the refresh button), but what you're describing sounds like an ordinary rural or suburban street to me.
Re: Analysing a left-reverse curve
Author: bdbr13
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:09
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 17:09
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It looks like a neckdown. It's just a street narrowing past a restriction, right-of-way it looks like. That's all.
Re: Analysing a left-reverse curve
Author: Imam Widdershins
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:17
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:17
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Carl Rogers spake thusly: > Hi All, > > A left-reverse curve is nothing uncommon. When space is tight, the curve > helps maintain the continuity of a through-road. What's uncommon is if the > reverse-curve has narrower roadwidth than the two connecting straightaways, > is unable to accomodate parallel parking, and whose length is barely enough > to fit a freight truck. For demonstration: > > http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com/tmp/left-reverse.html > > Cheers, > > Carl Rogers > "Adding human experience to highway enthusiasm" Still zigging when you should be zagging, Carl? Imam Widdershins
Re: Analysing a left-reverse curve
Author: Andrew Tompkins
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:38
Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2007 21:38
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MLOM wrote: > On Jul 11, 10:37 pm, "Carl Rogers" <postmas...@calrog.com> wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> A left-reverse curve is nothing uncommon. When space is tight, the curve >> helps maintain the continuity of a through-road. What's uncommon is if the >> reverse-curve has narrower roadwidth than the two connecting straightaways, >> is unable to accomodate parallel parking, and whose length is barely enough >> to fit a freight truck. For demonstration: >> >> http://worldwide-hwys.calrog.com/tmp/left-reverse.html >> >> Cheers, >> >> Carl Rogers >> "Adding human experience to highway enthusiasm" >> ******** >> Calrog.com,http://www.calrog.com: >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> An integrated media arm in Turn-of-the-Century PC Development, International >> Highway Research, and Interpersonal Psychology. Has served your home >> country and ninety-seven of its worldwide neighbours since 2000, through >> Internet downstream and published works. >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/calrog >> ******** > > Where did you find that? It sounds oddly like a stunt MoDOT might do. > He must be running out of photo submissions and gas money. Between this and the name drop a couple of days ago (it's relatively common to see personal identifiers [name, nom de net, domain name] in search keys; they show up in my website's stats also), he hasn't added anything to his non-temporary website content or provided anything new or meaningful in terms of information. -- --Andy
Re: Analysing a left-reverse curve
Author: Carl Rogers
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:48
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:48
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MLOM wrote: > Where did you find that? It sounds oddly like a stunt MoDOT might do. Hey GR, It's in San Mateo, Calif. along CalTrain. Can you believe that a 1h15m train ride takes faster than driving? Such is life in the Peninsula. :-| Hopefully the commute in KC is less hectic. Cheers, Carl Rogers "Adding human experience to highway enthusiasm" ******** Calrog.com, http://www.calrog.com : ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ An integrated media arm in Turn-of-the-Century PC Development, International Highway Research, and Interpersonal Psychology. Has served your home country and ninety-seven of its worldwide neighbours since 2000, through Internet downstream and published works. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/calrog ********
Re: Analysing a left-reverse curve
Author: My Land of Misery
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:01
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:01
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On Jul 12, 9:48 pm, Carl Rogers <postmas...@calrog.com> wrote: > MLOM wrote: > > Where did you find that? It sounds oddly like a stunt MoDOT might do. > > Hey GR, > > It's in San Mateo, Calif. along CalTrain. Can you believe that a 1h15m > train ride takes faster than driving? Such is life in the Peninsula. :-| > > Hopefully the commute in KC is less hectic. > > Cheers, > > Carl Rogers > "Adding human experience to highway enthusiasm" > ******** > Calrog.com,http://www.calrog.com: > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > An integrated media arm in Turn-of-the-Century PC Development, > International Highway Research, and Interpersonal Psychology. Has > served your home country and ninety-seven of its worldwide neighbours > since 2000, through Internet downstream and published works. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/calrog > ******** Greetings Carl. KC isn't bad for a metro area, but it does have its share of choke points. Fortunately, my daily commute of 6 miles avoids them all. I'm well south of the bulk of the rush hour traffic, with both my home and my employer south of the notorious Grandview Triangle. I had my one-time experience in S. CA back in June 1995, visiting my brother during his short stay in San Diego. I hit morning rush near San Bernardino, and my car (which handled the mountains and desert quite well) blew 3 freeze plugs and two hoses on I-215. I spent all day in the shop due to the parts requiring transport from Los Angeles. The positive effect of that was crossing the Mojave Desert (I-15) at night. That made for some interesting lighting sights upon entering Nevada. Regards. G.R. Van | Kansas City | http://www.mylandofmisery.com/roads/
Re: Analysing a left-reverse curve
Author: Carl Rogers
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:50
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:50
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Steve A. wrote: > On Jul 11, 11:37 pm, "Carl Rogers" <postmas...@calrog.com> wrote: >> Hi All, >> >> A left-reverse curve is nothing uncommon. When space is tight, the curve >> helps maintain the continuity of a through-road. What's uncommon is if the >> reverse-curve has narrower roadwidth than the two connecting straightaways, >> is unable to accomodate parallel parking, and whose length is barely enough >> to fit a freight truck. For demonstration: >> > Actually, it is very common for a curve to be narrower than the > straightaways, because it has to be curving around something, and that > something can impose a barrier on how wide the road can be. It is > also very common to not have parallel parking on a reverse curve, or > even on a straightaway for that matter. I'm not clicking your link to > glorify your site hits (and I'm sure you boost your own site hit count > whenever you can via the refresh button), but what you're describing > sounds like an ordinary rural or suburban street to me. > Here's a progress report on Steve's argument style: (1) He broke down my three collective arguments (to describe the road) into separate modules. (2) He then downplayed the significance of each three arguments separately, as if each weren't part of a collective. (3) Thinking that he has downplayed the argument, he then shifts to personal attribution, attacking the personal character of the OP. (4) Since he feels that he has the foot-in-the-door w/ the downplay of personal character, he proceeds to introduce his perception of the OP's website, and its level of success. In summary, he follows a classic pattern to attack personal character: (a) Downplay the argument. Then; (b) Provide his feelings of one's character. Then; (c) Provide an unfounded explanation to create social bias. Ironically, this kind of behaviour is quite common in a junior-high classroom. --Carl
Re: Analysing a left-reverse curve
Author: My Land of Misery
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:52
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 03:52
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On Jul 12, 10:50 pm, Carl Rogers <postmas...@calrog.com> wrote: > Steve A. wrote: > > On Jul 11, 11:37 pm, "Carl Rogers" <postmas...@calrog.com> wrote: > >> Hi All, > > >> A left-reverse curve is nothing uncommon. When space is tight, the curve > >> helps maintain the continuity of a through-road. What's uncommon is if the > >> reverse-curve has narrower roadwidth than the two connecting straightaways, > >> is unable to accomodate parallel parking, and whose length is barely enough > >> to fit a freight truck. For demonstration: > > > Actually, it is very common for a curve to be narrower than the > > straightaways, because it has to be curving around something, and that > > something can impose a barrier on how wide the road can be. It is > > also very common to not have parallel parking on a reverse curve, or > > even on a straightaway for that matter. I'm not clicking your link to > > glorify your site hits (and I'm sure you boost your own site hit count > > whenever you can via the refresh button), but what you're describing > > sounds like an ordinary rural or suburban street to me. > > Here's a progress report on Steve's argument style: > > (1) He broke down my three collective arguments (to describe the road) > into separate modules. > (2) He then downplayed the significance of each three arguments > separately, as if each weren't part of a collective. > (3) Thinking that he has downplayed the argument, he then shifts to > personal attribution, attacking the personal character of the OP. > (4) Since he feels that he has the foot-in-the-door w/ the downplay of > personal character, he proceeds to introduce his perception of the OP's > website, and its level of success. > > In summary, he follows a classic pattern to attack personal character: > > (a) Downplay the argument. Then; > (b) Provide his feelings of one's character. Then; > (c) Provide an unfounded explanation to create social bias. > > Ironically, this kind of behaviour is quite common in a junior-high > classroom. > > --Carl- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - I'm afraid it's also too common here on mtr.
Re: Analysing a left-reverse curve
Author: Sherman L. Cahal
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:14
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 04:14
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On Jul 12, 11:52 pm, My Land of Misery <gr...@netzero.net> wrote: > On Jul 12, 10:50 pm, Carl Rogers <postmas...@calrog.com> wrote: > > > > > Steve A. wrote: > > > On Jul 11, 11:37 pm, "Carl Rogers" <postmas...@calrog.com> wrote: > > >> Hi All, > > > >> A left-reverse curve is nothing uncommon. When space is tight, the curve > > >> helps maintain the continuity of a through-road. What's uncommon is if the > > >> reverse-curve has narrower roadwidth than the two connecting straightaways, > > >> is unable to accomodate parallel parking, and whose length is barely enough > > >> to fit a freight truck. For demonstration: > > > > Actually, it is very common for a curve to be narrower than the > > > straightaways, because it has to be curving around something, and that > > > something can impose a barrier on how wide the road can be. It is > > > also very common to not have parallel parking on a reverse curve, or > > > even on a straightaway for that matter. I'm not clicking your link to > > > glorify your site hits (and I'm sure you boost your own site hit count > > > whenever you can via the refresh button), but what you're describing > > > sounds like an ordinary rural or suburban street to me. > > > Here's a progress report on Steve's argument style: > > > (1) He broke down my three collective arguments (to describe the road) > > into separate modules. > > (2) He then downplayed the significance of each three arguments > > separately, as if each weren't part of a collective. > > (3) Thinking that he has downplayed the argument, he then shifts to > > personal attribution, attacking the personal character of the OP. > > (4) Since he feels that he has the foot-in-the-door w/ the downplay of > > personal character, he proceeds to introduce his perception of the OP's > > website, and its level of success. > > > In summary, he follows a classic pattern to attack personal character: > > > (a) Downplay the argument. Then; > > (b) Provide his feelings of one's character. Then; > > (c) Provide an unfounded explanation to create social bias. > > > Ironically, this kind of behaviour is quite common in a junior-high > > classroom. > > > --Carl- Hide quoted text - > > > - Show quoted text - > > I'm afraid it's also too common here on mtr. In Carl.
Re: Analysing a left-reverse curve
Author: Larry Harvilla
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:33
Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:33
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My Land of Misery wrote: > On Jul 12, 9:48 pm, Carl Rogers <postmas...@calrog.com> wrote: >> MLOM wrote: >>> Where did you find that? It sounds oddly like a stunt MoDOT might do. >> Hey GR, >> >> It's in San Mateo, Calif. along CalTrain. Can you believe that a 1h15m >> train ride takes faster than driving? Such is life in the Peninsula. :-| >> >> Hopefully the commute in KC is less hectic. >> >> Cheers, >> >> Carl Rogers >> "Adding human experience to highway enthusiasm" >> ******** >> Calrog.com,http://www.calrog.com: >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> An integrated media arm in Turn-of-the-Century PC Development, >> International Highway Research, and Interpersonal Psychology. Has >> served your home country and ninety-seven of its worldwide neighbours >> since 2000, through Internet downstream and published works. >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> MySpace: http://www.myspace.com/calrog >> ******** > > Greetings Carl. > > KC isn't bad for a metro area, but it does have its share of choke > points. The traffic disaster that is I-29/I-35/I-70/US 24/the Paseo Bridge on line 2. -- Larry Harvilla e-mail: larry AT phatpage DOT org blog-aliciousness: http://www.phatpage.org/news/ Highways section still in progress at http://www.phatpage.org/highways.html
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