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11 total messages Started by Tracer Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:00
Pentium II crashes like Hell
#1
Author: Tracer
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:00
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Hi I bought last week a pentium II.
And that thing crashes like hell
At least every 5 minutes

Does someone know if there are patches or
something for this?????

Please email me. Because i'm not daily on the internet
(i don't have internet at home....)

becc0527@ibm.net


Laureys Wouter
Re: Pentium II crashes like Hell
#2
Author: DaveW
Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1998 00:00
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Tracer wrote:

> Hi I bought last week a pentium II.
> And that thing crashes like hell
> At least every 5 minutes
>
> Does someone know if there are patches or
> something for this?????
>
> Please email me. Because i'm not daily on the internet
> (i don't have internet at home....)
>
> becc0527@ibm.net
>
> Laureys Wouter


Howdy :)

It sounds like you have the standard Pentium II Cooling Problem, that
I've written about before in this newsgroup.  The Pentium II 266, which
I own, produces 40 WATTS of heat.  Without adequate cooling for the Cpu
and the CASE itself the Pentium II will get the air insid ethe case so
warm that the CPU overheats and crashes.

Solution: in addition to the Power Supply Fan, and the CPU heatsink and
Fan, you need to install a Large 4" exhaust fan for the case itself to
vent the hot air out of the case and force the drawing of cooler air
into the case.  Works like a charm!  (Most tower cases have a mounting
area inside where the wall is perforated and there are mounting holes
for a 4" fan.)

Hope this helps :)


--
---

DaveW:   "Save the whales.  Collect the complete set..."
Re: Pentium II crashes like Hell
#3
Author: Bjorn Lindgren
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:00
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In comp.sys.intel Tracer <becc0527@ibm.net> wrote:
> Hi I bought last week a pentium II.
> And that thing crashes like hell
> At least every 5 minutes

> Does someone know if there are patches or
> something for this?????

It's not your PII chip that crashes like hell, it's just _windows_  ;-)
Solution: try installing a better OS than window$


________________________________________________________
Bjorn Lindgren    bjorn(a)nexus.pp.se    www.nexus.pp.se
PGP key available on request           unix/network bofh
Re: Pentium II crashes like Hell
#4
Author: Bjorn Lindgren
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:00
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In comp.sys.intel DaveW <davew2@slip.net> wrote:


> Tracer wrote:

>> Hi I bought last week a pentium II.
>> And that thing crashes like hell
>> At least every 5 minutes
>>
>> Does someone know if there are patches or
>> something for this?????
>>
>> Please email me. Because i'm not daily on the internet
>> (i don't have internet at home....)
>>
>> becc0527@ibm.net
>>
>> Laureys Wouter


> Howdy :)

> It sounds like you have the standard Pentium II Cooling Problem, that
> I've written about before in this newsgroup.  The Pentium II 266, which
> I own, produces 40 WATTS of heat.  Without adequate cooling for the Cpu
> and the CASE itself the Pentium II will get the air insid ethe case so
> warm that the CPU overheats and crashes.

Put the motherboard into the refrigator!, -10 degres celsius will do, ;)
(or maybe one of these nifty cryotech CPU cooling systems..)

________________________________________________________
Bjorn Lindgren    bjorn(a)nexus.pp.se    www.nexus.pp.se
PGP key available on request           unix/network bofh
Re: Pentium II crashes like Hell
#5
Author: Doug
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 1998 00:00
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Bjorn Lindgren <z@x.y> wrote:

>It's not your PII chip that crashes like hell, it's just _windows_  ;-)
>Solution: try installing a better OS than window$

There is only one that is clearly better, but AmigaDOS doesn't run on
a PII.
Re: Pentium II crashes like Hell
#6
Author: Kevin Stone
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:00
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In article <3545a11b.0@d2o1.telia.com>, Bjorn Lindgren <z@x.y> wrote:

> In comp.sys.intel DaveW <davew2@slip.net> wrote:
(snip)
> > Howdy :)
> 
> > It sounds like you have the standard Pentium II Cooling Problem, that
> > I've written about before in this newsgroup.  The Pentium II 266, which
> > I own, produces 40 WATTS of heat.  Without adequate cooling for the Cpu
> > and the CASE itself the Pentium II will get the air insid ethe case so
> > warm that the CPU overheats and crashes.
> 
> Put the motherboard into the refrigator!, -10 degres celsius will do, ;)
> (or maybe one of these nifty cryotech CPU cooling systems..)


Like the man said...  "Powered by Intel. Cooled by Frigidare."  ;)

-Kevin Stone
Re: Pentium II crashes like Hell
#7
Author: David Du
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:00
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Bjorn Lindgren wrote in message <3545a11b.0@d2o1.telia.com>...
>In comp.sys.intel DaveW <davew2@slip.net> wrote:
>
>
>> Tracer wrote:
>
>>> Hi I bought last week a pentium II.
>>> And that thing crashes like hell
>>> At least every 5 minutes
>>>
>>> Does someone know if there are patches or
>>> something for this?????
>>>
>>> Please email me. Because i'm not daily on the internet
>>> (i don't have internet at home....)
>>>
>>> becc0527@ibm.net
>>>
>>> Laureys Wouter
>
>
>> Howdy :)
>
>> It sounds like you have the standard Pentium II Cooling Problem, that
>> I've written about before in this newsgroup.  The Pentium II 266, which
>> I own, produces 40 WATTS of heat.  Without adequate cooling for the Cpu
>> and the CASE itself the Pentium II will get the air insid ethe case so
>> warm that the CPU overheats and crashes.
>
>Put the motherboard into the refrigator!, -10 degres celsius will do, ;)
>(or maybe one of these nifty cryotech CPU cooling systems..)
>
>________________________________________________________
>Bjorn Lindgren    bjorn(a)nexus.pp.se    www.nexus.pp.se
>PGP key available on request           unix/network bofh

I also bought a PII 266 and it has the same problem. Although it looks
possible to be the cooling problem since it gets worse when working longer,
my guess is the conflicts between the Intel motherboard and the S3 display
adaptor because it crashes most of the time when displaying a sophisticated
picture.

By the way, if it's the cooling problem, does anybody know any solution
other than this one? It's a brand new PC and I don't want do it hard.
Thanks!

David Du
Re: Pentium II crashes like Hell
#8
Author: Gary Fox
Date: Wed, 29 Apr 1998 00:00
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If you have a true heat problem, make sure that the CPU has a heat sink and
fan combo with compound between the heat sink and the processor.  A second
fan in the case if you do not have one yet will help.  Please post your MB
type, case type and MB style, (ATX or at).
Do you have any mother board temperature monitoring on the mother board that
you can read the temp. either from the bios or an external program?

David Du wrote in message <6i8a4p$8i0$1@client2.news.psi.net>...
>
>Bjorn Lindgren wrote in message <3545a11b.0@d2o1.telia.com>...
>>In comp.sys.intel DaveW <davew2@slip.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Tracer wrote:
>>
>>>> Hi I bought last week a pentium II.
>>>> And that thing crashes like hell
>>>> At least every 5 minutes
>>>>
>>>> Does someone know if there are patches or
>>>> something for this?????
>>>>
>>>> Please email me. Because i'm not daily on the internet
>>>> (i don't have internet at home....)
>>>>
>>>> becc0527@ibm.net
>>>>
>>>> Laureys Wouter
>>
>>
>>> Howdy :)
>>
>>> It sounds like you have the standard Pentium II Cooling Problem, that
>>> I've written about before in this newsgroup.  The Pentium II 266, which
>>> I own, produces 40 WATTS of heat.  Without adequate cooling for the Cpu
>>> and the CASE itself the Pentium II will get the air insid ethe case so
>>> warm that the CPU overheats and crashes.
>>
>>Put the motherboard into the refrigator!, -10 degres celsius will do, ;)
>>(or maybe one of these nifty cryotech CPU cooling systems..)
>>
>>________________________________________________________
>>Bjorn Lindgren    bjorn(a)nexus.pp.se    www.nexus.pp.se
>>PGP key available on request           unix/network bofh
>
>I also bought a PII 266 and it has the same problem. Although it looks
>possible to be the cooling problem since it gets worse when working longer,
>my guess is the conflicts between the Intel motherboard and the S3 display
>adaptor because it crashes most of the time when displaying a sophisticated
>picture.
>
>By the way, if it's the cooling problem, does anybody know any solution
>other than this one? It's a brand new PC and I don't want do it hard.
>Thanks!
>
>David Du
>
>
Re: Pentium II crashes like Hell
#9
Author: Thomas Womack
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 00:00
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David Du wrote in message <6i8a4p$8i0$1@client2.news.psi.net>...
>Bjorn Lindgren wrote in message <3545a11b.0@d2o1.telia.com>...
>>In comp.sys.intel DaveW <davew2@slip.net> wrote:
>>> Tracer wrote:
>>>> Hi I bought last week a pentium II.
>>>> And that thing crashes like hell
>>>> At least every 5 minutes
>>>>
>>>> Does someone know if there are patches or
>>>> something for this?????

>I also bought a PII 266 and it has the same problem. Although it looks
>possible to be the cooling problem since it gets worse when working longer,
>my guess is the conflicts between the Intel motherboard and the S3 display
>adaptor because it crashes most of the time when displaying a sophisticated
>picture.
>
>By the way, if it's the cooling problem, does anybody know any solution
>other than this one? It's a brand new PC and I don't want do it hard.
>Thanks!


If it's a brand new PC, what's wrong with taking it back to where you bought
it from and cursing at the manager until he agrees to swap it with one that
doesn't crash at ten-minute intervals?

Unless it's home-assembled with an Intel motherboard and an S3 display
adaptor, in which case return the S3 adaptor to place of purchase (or
convert it into a novel sort of roofing slate), and buy something like a
Viper 330 AGP. The S3 adaptor's not compatible with many 440LX motherboards.

Tom
Re: Pentium II crashes like Hell
#10
Author: David Du
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 00:00
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The motherboard is an Intel AL440LX. The case is a mini tower. No, I don't
have such monitoring.

FYI, the display adaptor is a DataExpert DSV3325DX.

Gary Fox wrote in message <6i8nh4$dbo$1@proxye2.nycap.rr.com>...
>If you have a true heat problem, make sure that the CPU has a heat sink and
>fan combo with compound between the heat sink and the processor.  A second
>fan in the case if you do not have one yet will help.  Please post your MB
>type, case type and MB style, (ATX or at).
>Do you have any mother board temperature monitoring on the mother board
that
>you can read the temp. either from the bios or an external program?
>
>David Du wrote in message <6i8a4p$8i0$1@client2.news.psi.net>...
>>
>>Bjorn Lindgren wrote in message <3545a11b.0@d2o1.telia.com>...
>>>In comp.sys.intel DaveW <davew2@slip.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tracer wrote:
>>>
>>>>> Hi I bought last week a pentium II.
>>>>> And that thing crashes like hell
>>>>> At least every 5 minutes
>>>>>
>>>>> Does someone know if there are patches or
>>>>> something for this?????
>>>>>
>>>>> Please email me. Because i'm not daily on the internet
>>>>> (i don't have internet at home....)
>>>>>
>>>>> becc0527@ibm.net
>>>>>
>>>>> Laureys Wouter
>>>
>>>
>>>> Howdy :)
>>>
>>>> It sounds like you have the standard Pentium II Cooling Problem, that
>>>> I've written about before in this newsgroup.  The Pentium II 266, which
>>>> I own, produces 40 WATTS of heat.  Without adequate cooling for the Cpu
>>>> and the CASE itself the Pentium II will get the air insid ethe case so
>>>> warm that the CPU overheats and crashes.
>>>
>>>Put the motherboard into the refrigator!, -10 degres celsius will do, ;)
>>>(or maybe one of these nifty cryotech CPU cooling systems..)
>>>
>>>________________________________________________________
>>>Bjorn Lindgren    bjorn(a)nexus.pp.se    www.nexus.pp.se
>>>PGP key available on request           unix/network bofh
>>
>>I also bought a PII 266 and it has the same problem. Although it looks
>>possible to be the cooling problem since it gets worse when working
longer,
>>my guess is the conflicts between the Intel motherboard and the S3 display
>>adaptor because it crashes most of the time when displaying a
sophisticated
>>picture.
>>
>>By the way, if it's the cooling problem, does anybody know any solution
>>other than this one? It's a brand new PC and I don't want do it hard.
>>Thanks!
>>
>>David Du
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Pentium II crashes like Hell
#11
Author: Jerry Flanders
Date: Thu, 30 Apr 1998 00:00
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I bought a new P2-266 with the Intel AL440LX MB from Computer City
last week. It froze up every 3-4 hours. I took it back to Computer
City where they discovered a newly-issued announcement concerning a
BIOS problem which would give exactly the problem I was having.
Solution was to flash my BIOS with the latest BIOS from the Intel web
site. This BIOS version is dated 4/17/98, and is:
4A4LL0X0.86A.0023.P08.

You can download this BIOS upgrade yourself from Intel and DIY. I let
Computer City flash mine for me this morning, and now have it back. It
has been operating now for about 3 hours so far and seems OK.

Jerry  W4UK

On Thu, 30 Apr 1998 10:28:50 -0400, "David Du" <ddu@opencon.com>
wrote:

>The motherboard is an Intel AL440LX. The case is a mini tower. No, I don't
>have such monitoring.
>
>FYI, the display adaptor is a DataExpert DSV3325DX.
>
>Gary Fox wrote in message <6i8nh4$dbo$1@proxye2.nycap.rr.com>...
>>If you have a true heat problem, make sure that the CPU has a heat sink and
>>fan combo with compound between the heat sink and the processor.  A second
>>fan in the case if you do not have one yet will help.  Please post your MB
>>type, case type and MB style, (ATX or at).
>>Do you have any mother board temperature monitoring on the mother board
>that
>>you can read the temp. either from the bios or an external program?
>>
>>David Du wrote in message <6i8a4p$8i0$1@client2.news.psi.net>...
>>>
>>>Bjorn Lindgren wrote in message <3545a11b.0@d2o1.telia.com>...
>>>>In comp.sys.intel DaveW <davew2@slip.net> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Tracer wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> Hi I bought last week a pentium II.
>>>>>> And that thing crashes like hell
>>>>>> At least every 5 minutes
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does someone know if there are patches or
>>>>>> something for this?????
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please email me. Because i'm not daily on the internet
>>>>>> (i don't have internet at home....)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> becc0527@ibm.net
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Laureys Wouter
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Howdy :)
>>>>
>>>>> It sounds like you have the standard Pentium II Cooling Problem, that
>>>>> I've written about before in this newsgroup.  The Pentium II 266, which
>>>>> I own, produces 40 WATTS of heat.  Without adequate cooling for the Cpu
>>>>> and the CASE itself the Pentium II will get the air insid ethe case so
>>>>> warm that the CPU overheats and crashes.
>>>>
>>>>Put the motherboard into the refrigator!, -10 degres celsius will do, ;)
>>>>(or maybe one of these nifty cryotech CPU cooling systems..)
>>>>
>>>>________________________________________________________
>>>>Bjorn Lindgren    bjorn(a)nexus.pp.se    www.nexus.pp.se
>>>>PGP key available on request           unix/network bofh
>>>
>>>I also bought a PII 266 and it has the same problem. Although it looks
>>>possible to be the cooling problem since it gets worse when working
>longer,
>>>my guess is the conflicts between the Intel motherboard and the S3 display
>>>adaptor because it crashes most of the time when displaying a
>sophisticated
>>>picture.
>>>
>>>By the way, if it's the cooling problem, does anybody know any solution
>>>other than this one? It's a brand new PC and I don't want do it hard.
>>>Thanks!
>>>
>>>David Du
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
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