🚀 go-pugleaf

When did Australia get a population of  60 Million? BTW, a lot of Australians did
speak up about the guns, it might have been that you chose not to hear. Linking
this issue to the gun debate is not likely to be productive. Given that rhetoric
and abuse didn't do the gun cause any good, why try that tactic again? All abuse
does is re-inforce the view that the bill correctly targets intemperate, uncouth
characters, rather than imposing unworkable and unproductive restrictions on all
internet users. Commonsense and technical arguments, rather than just emotional
outbursts, are more likely to have the desired effect.

The support that the government gets is from conservative, middle Australia. Unless
you can convince them that this is a bad thing, the cause will be lost. Given the
tone of the messages in this NG, I doubt that we stand a chance. Remember,
censorship is already applied to magazines, books, videos and movies and the
average person isn't even consciously aware of it, let alone objecting to it. The
populus has a philosophical acceptance of censorship already and it is an easy
argument to say that the net should be censored in the same way as other mediums.


Trent Waddington wrote:

> I remember it well as I was right there saying how rediculous it was.  But
> when they came for the gun owners most australians had never owned a gun
> so they didn't speak up.  Now they're comming for the internet users but
> only 3.5 million australians use the internet so the other 60 million
> havn't really spoken up.  When they come for the encryption users and the
> bill posters will you speak up?
>
> David Addinall (addinall@southwest.com.au) wrote:
> :
> : Pleasure, but could I just remind you all that 10s of 1000s of Shooters had a
> : similar
> : rally in Brisbane a couple of years ago and the response from the guvmint was
> : "get fucked, you have no rights" and a willingness to spend half a billion
> : dollars 'banning' something to 'protect the kiddies'.  Starting to sound
> : familiar yet?  A few of us in here predicted the net would come
> : under attack next and many were labelled 'conspiracy nuts'.  Well, the
> : day has arrived - here we go for another round of chucking money at
> : smokescreens and ignoring the real problems.
> :
> : Last week there were ~= 6,800 children under 14 living on the
> : street in WA alone.  This is not supposed to happen in Australia,
> : it's not fucking Brazil.
> :
> : Mark.
> :
> :
> :

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