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dgentleman_jackson@yahoo.com (Duane Jackson) wrote in message 

>     The a-team isn't much of anything JP. Just some overblow from the
> mouth of Pangborn. No notables in the legal profession have ever heard
> of them. By the way Pangborn, Gault and Kaiser are all the same
> person. Kenneth Pangborn the trial consultant from Palm Harbor Florida
> who was elected Kook of the Month in the Kook of the Month Club.  We
> are quoting here some evidence from our google search that yielded a
> post that includes full message id's of Pangborn posts that used
> comparitive agendas and language from some of Pangborn's former
> accounts:
> 
> Begin quote:
> 
> "This is proof that  kaiserdvr,  pangk, kenpangborn@earthlink.net are
> all the same person.  One person may use any one or two of these
> expressions but only Ken Pangborn with his multiple screen names
> commonly uses all of them.
> Standing alone they don't mean much.  Used in combination, they nail
> Pangborn. After this was published the first time, Pangborn's sock
> puppet, Keith Ray from Tucson, Az. began using a lot of these phrases
> to throw off the search engines but he hadn't used them prior to that
> time so it is clear that he was attempting to cover Pangborn's tracks.
>  We searched using the following common Pangborn phrases and Pangborn
> language patterns:
> 
>  "Ignoramus", "functionally insane", "facing criminal charges",
> "feminist
> extremist" , "fruitloop", "fruitcake" "shock treatements", "brown
> fog", "hubby
> John Edward Freed"
> 
> The pangk@aol.com account is Pangborn'ss old account that was
> involuntarily terminated. His krp@atlantic.net account was also
> involuntarily terminated, both for TOS abuses. (harrassment of others)
> 
> From: pangk@aol.com (PangK) 
> Subject: Re: IN SEARCH OF ... Idiot Kenny's mythical diploma
> Date: 1999/12/04
> Message-ID: <19991203201942.16630.00000507@ng-da1.aol.com>#1/1
> References: <3847BBA4.5287@worldnet.att.net>
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: sci.psychology.psychotherapy
> X-Admin: news@aol.com
> 
> " Newton you remain an ignoramus."
> 
> From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
> Subject: Re:  Re: FALSE ALLEGATIONS OF ABUSE  HELP!!
> Date: 1999/12/03
> Message-ID: <19991203053742.25142.00000212@ng-cs1.aol.com>#1/1
> References: <199912021028.CAA07713@sirius.infonex.com>
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: soc.men
> X-Admin: news@aol.com
> 
> "Actually, David in criminal cases that's pretty cheap. But then I
> wouldn't
> expect an ignoramus like you to know that."
> 
> From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
> Subject: Re: The Goddess Huchicuchi
> Date: 1998/01/03
> Message-ID: <19980103112901.GAA11266@ladder02.news.aol.com>#1/1
> References: <68kd6g$pcq@dfw-ixnews4.ix.netcom.com>
> X-Admin: news@aol.com
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: soc.men
> 
> " But that is something an ignoramus like you wouldn't get. " 
> 
> From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
> Subject: Re: statutory rape
> Date: 1997/11/26
> Message-ID: <19971126121201.HAA15325@ladder01.news.aol.com>#1/1
> References: <880501937.19208@dejanews.com>
> X-Admin: news@aol.com
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: talk.rape
> 
> "Except when you engage in conversations with ignoramus social workers
> who
> don't
> know beans about shit!"
> 
> Lines: 49
> X-Admin: news@cs.com
> From: kaiserdrvr@cs.com (KaiserDrvr)
> Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated
> Date: 12 Apr 2002 02:05:57 GMT
> References: <20020411143816.18315.00002490@mb-fp.aol.com>
> Organization: CompuServe (http://www.compuserve.com/)
> Subject: Re: Stacy Alexanderis a compulsive liar and nut case
> Message-ID: <20020411220557.26874.00002996@mb-cj.news.cs.com>
> 
> "only an ignoramus would suggest to the men that they can do it
> themselves, or
> a
> extremist feminist who wishes harm to the men."
>  
> Functionally insane
> 
> From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
> Subject: Re: HEY DAVE!!!!  I KNOW THE ANSWER!!  I KNOW!! I KNOW!!!
> Date: 1999/01/11
> Message-ID: <19990111105516.24251.00010173@ng-fc2.aol.com>#1/1
> References: <369883FB.411D@worldnet.att.net>
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: soc.men
> X-Admin: news@aol.com
> " In short Mr. Newton I consider you to be functionally INSANE. 
> 
> From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
> Subject: Re: Fathers Rights Activist in Wisconsin
> Date: 1999/03/13
> Message-ID: <19990313072405.20142.00000050@ng136.aol.com>#1/1
> References: <36E99DCB.6AC2@javanet.com>
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: wi.general
> X-Admin: news@aol.com
> 
>  As are YOURS Space Cadet. Of course that the vast majority of people
> who
> view usenet come quickly to realize that you are a liar, and
> functionally
> insane, doesn't seem to register on you.
> 
> Lines: 53
> X-Admin: news@cs.com
> From: kaiserdrvr@cs.com (KaiserDrvr)
> Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated
> Date: 12 Apr 2002 02:15:17 GMT
> References: <20020411174942.07896.00006364@mb-mv.aol.com>
> Organization: CompuServe (http://www.compuserve.com/)
> Subject: Re: Hank-y wishes he could Yank-y a Wank-y     :)
> Message-ID: <20020411221517.26874.00002997@mb-cj.news.cs.com>
> 
> "Do you realize you are functionally insane?"
> 
> From: "Kenneth Pangborn" <kenpangborn@earthlink.net>
> Newsgroups: soc.men
> References: <zGJZ5.158008$e5.114623@newsfeeds.bigpond.com>
> <3A37D135.A9CF5504@redhat.com> <91f2mb$c70$1@nnrp1.deja.com>
> Subject: Re: STOP THIS JERK
> Lines: 21
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> Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2000 12:10:40 GMT
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> 2000 04:10:40 PST)
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> Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net
> 
> "In this case the simple explanation is that he is functionally
> INSANE!"
> 
> Reply-To: "Kenneth Pangborn" <kenpangborn@earthlink.net>
> From: "Kenneth Pangborn" <kenpangborn@earthlink.net>
> Newsgroups:
> alt.dads-rights.unmoderated,soc.men,alt.support.divorce,alt.child-support
> References: <8rfhe7$8gp$0@dosa.alt.net>
> <Pine.GSO.4.10.10010041953430.14872-100000@user2.teleport.com>
> <HmZC5.18460$TP6.438114@newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net>
> <Tg2D5.2389$0M5.108082@news1.onlynews.com>
> <1bkpts4dc3nvbkacldatam0o5kqq68tq4j@4ax.com>
> <Pine.GSO.4.10.10010052134480.3138-100000@user2.teleport.com>
> <0u9stsse5ockt8uo57gvf1u2t15paqskdg@4ax.com>
> Subject: Re: CAUTION ON SUPERSEDED ARTICLES
> Lines: 33
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> Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 13:25:29 GMT
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> 2000 06:25:29 PDT)
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 06:25:29 PDT
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> 
> "His willingness to place his family at financial risk like this just
> convinces
> me even more that he's functionally insane!"
> 
> From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
> Subject: Re: Responding to e-mail from Ken
> Date: 2000/02/07
> Message-ID: <20000207080208.27083.00002100@ng-fm1.aol.com>#1/1
> References: <20000207040343.444@dufnu.azerty.org>
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: sci.psychology.psychotherapy
> X-Admin: news@aol.com
> 
>  "Again when Tom first contacted me he was facing criminal charges..."
> 
> From: "Kenneth Pangborn" <kenpangborn@earthlink.net>
> Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated
> References: <3a9e40fd.259634805@news.monmouth.com>
> Subject: Re: Associate..
> Lines: 41
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> Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 14:32:34 GMT
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> X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net
> X-Trace: newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net 983629954 63.11.104.193
> (Sat, 03 Mar
> 2001 06:32:34 PST)
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 03 Mar 2001 06:32:34 PST
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> 
> " It was simple. When the man named Tom first contacted me, he was
> facing
> criminal charges for domestic violence..."
> 
> Lines: 49
> X-Admin: news@cs.com
> From: kaiserdrvr@cs.com (KaiserDrvr)
> Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated
> Date: 12 Apr 2002 02:05:57 GMT
> References: <20020411143816.18315.00002490@mb-fp.aol.com>
> Organization: CompuServe (http://www.compuserve.com/)
> Subject: Re: Stacy Alexanderis a compulsive liar and nut case
> Message-ID: <20020411220557.26874.00002996@mb-cj.news.cs.com>
> 
> "Stacy when a man is facing criminal charges..."
> 
> 
> Lines: 10
> X-Admin: news@cs.com
> From: kaiserdrvr@cs.com (KaiserDrvr)
> Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated
> Date: 12 Apr 2002 01:32:45 GMT
> References: <20020411140635.18315.00002483@mb-fp.aol.com>
> Organization: CompuServe (http://www.compuserve.com/)
> Subject: Re: A Great Resource for Fathers www.a-team.cc
> Message-ID: <20020411213245.26874.00002991@mb-cj.news.cs.com>
> 
> " You are a feminist extremist."
> 
> From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
> Subject: Where men LEARN to abuse
> Date: 2000/03/03
> Message-ID: <20000303175955.03254.00000046@ng-fl1.aol.com>#1/1
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: soc.men
> X-Admin: news@aol.com
> 
> "If you are a feminist extremist you say it was Adam."
> 
> Reply-To: "Kenneth Pangborn" <kenpangborn@earthlink.net>
> From: "Kenneth Pangborn" <kenpangborn@earthlink.net>
> Newsgroups: soc.men
> References: <20000815223904.02490.00000139@ng-fb1.aol.com>
> <WVom5.2455$Ur3.16852@news1.sttls1.wa.home.com>
> Subject: Re: The Primary Caregiver Lie (was Re: The incentives to
> divorce....)
> Lines: 22
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> Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 20:47:31 GMT
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> X-Complaints-To: abuse@earthlink.net
> X-Trace: newsread2.prod.itd.earthlink.net 966458851 63.25.149.209
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> 2000 13:47:31 PDT)
> NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 16 Aug 2000 13:47:31 PDT
> Organization: EarthLink Inc. -- http://www.EarthLink.net
> 
> "I mean in sources other than whacko feminist extremist sources."
> 
> From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
> Subject: Re: Kenny's Borderline Diagnosis
> Date: 2000/02/10
> Message-ID: <20000210142220.26426.00002636@ng-fs1.aol.com>#1/1
> References: <38A2AE47.6279@worldnet.att.net>
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: sci.psychology.psychotherapy
> X-Admin: news@aol.com
> 
> "Newton, I need not expend any effort to prove you a fruitloop."
> 
> From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
> Subject: Re: NEWTON IS A FUGITIVE FROM THE FUNNY FARM
> Date: 2000/02/03
> Message-ID: <20000203115408.02483.00001097@ng-fc1.aol.com>#1/1
> References: <389924A4.337E@worldnet.att.net>
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: soc.men
> X-Admin: news@aol.com
> 
> "Fruitloop Newton's ravings filed in #13."
> 
> Lines: 15
> X-Admin: news@cs.com
> From: kaiserdrvr@cs.com (KaiserDrvr)
> Newsgroups: fl.general
> Date: 10 Apr 2002 21:54:28 GMT
> References: <20020410165848.00586.00004216@mb-md.aol.com>
> Organization: CompuServe (http://www.compuserve.com/)
> Subject: Re: News for Dads in Trouble
> Message-ID: <20020410175428.11131.00002748@mb-ca.news.cs.com>
> 
> "...so far the people I have spoken to have come to see who is behind
> it and
> realize that a fruitloop feminist loon is and see ..."
> 
> From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
> Subject: Re:  Ken Pangborn, internet liar
> Date: 1998/10/08
> Message-ID: <19981008073414.06557.00005427@ng131.aol.com>#1/1
> References: <199810080546.HAA31143@replay.com>
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: soc.veterans
> X-Admin: news@aol.com
> 
> " They have you pretty well written off as a fruitcake."
> 
> Lines: 17
> X-Admin: news@cs.com
> From: kaiserdrvr@cs.com (KaiserDrvr)
> Newsgroups: fl.general
> Date: 10 Apr 2002 21:51:37 GMT
> References: <20020410164608.00572.00004427@mb-md.aol.com>
> Organization: CompuServe (http://www.compuserve.com/)
> Subject: Re: Ken Pangborn is not the liar, Stacy Alexander is!
> Message-ID: <20020410175137.11131.00002747@mb-ca.news.cs.com>
> 
> "Let anothert police agency know they have a fruitcake there.
> 
> From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
> Subject: Re: FRONT?
> Date: 2000/06/25
> Message-ID: <20000624211158.05062.00000519@ng-cn1.aol.com>#1/1
> References: <W85CGWB936701.513912037@anonymous.poster>
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: soc.men
> X-Admin: news@aol.com
> 
> "Moore, a former candidate for shock treatments who had run into
> financial
> and legal trouble, was booked on murder and attempted murder charges."
> 
> Lines: 26
> X-Admin: news@cs.com
> From: kaiserdrvr@cs.com (KaiserDrvr)
> Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated
> Date: 13 Apr 2002 12:20:39 GMT
> References: <20020412184435.00586.00004815@mb-md.aol.com>
> Organization: CompuServe (http://www.compuserve.com/)
> Subject: STACY ALEXANDER FEMINAZI!
> Message-ID: <20020413082039.25262.00003199@mb-ci.news.cs.com>
> 
> "How have the shock treatments been going?"
> 
> From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
> Subject: HEMINGWAY ON COMBAT
> Date: 1997/02/04
> Message-ID: <19970204122201.HAA01167@ladder01.news.aol.com>#1/1
> references: <5d4ulc$m05@sjx-ixn7.ix.netcom.com>
> organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> newsgroups: soc.men
> x-admin: news@aol.com
> 
> But sadly master BULLSHIT artists like yourself can tend
> to obfuscate them in a brown fog.
> 
> From: pangk@aol.com
> Subject: Re: We won!!!!  Gay Marriages
> Date: 1996/12/09
> Message-ID: <19961209023400.VAA28775@ladder01.news.aol.com>#1/1
> references: <58eqnd$8v9@dfw-ixnews10.ix.netcom.com>
> organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> newsgroups: soc.men
> x-admin: news@aol.com
> 
> In shirt, your rather typical storm of brown fog. As in BULLSHIT! 
> 
> Lines: 10
> X-Admin: news@cs.com
> From: kaiserdrvr@cs.com (KaiserDrvr)
> Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated
> Date: 13 Apr 2002 12:15:56 GMT
> References: <20020412184109.00586.00004813@mb-md.aol.com>
> Organization: CompuServe (http://www.compuserve.com/)
> Subject: LEGALBEST IS STACY ALEXANDER
> Message-ID: <20020413081556.25262.00003196@mb-ci.news.cs.com>
> 
> "You can try yopur usual brown fog to hide things."
> 
> From: pangk@aol.com (PangK)
> Subject: Re: PANGBORN FORGES ANOTHER POST
> Date: 1998/04/16
> Message-ID: <1998041622233100.SAA03179@ladder03.news.aol.com>
> References: <6h4p9u$nrj$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>
> X-Admin: news@aol.com
> Organization: AOL http://www.aol.com
> Newsgroups: soc.men
> 
> "It was YOUR account, and on hubby John Edward Freed's  credit card!"
> 
> Lines: 27
> X-Admin: news@cs.com
> From: kaiserdrvr@cs.com (KaiserDrvr)
> Newsgroups: alt.dads-rights.unmoderated
> Date: 10 Apr 2002 10:44:08 GMT
> References: <20020409221822.02606.00003882@mb-dh.aol.com>
> Organization: CompuServe (http://www.compuserve.com/)
> Subject: Re: http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com is a FEMINIST SITE!!!  
> Message-ID: <20020410064408.27941.00002055@mb-fb.news.cs.com>
> 
> "...(actually your hubby John Edward Freed pays for it)" "
> 
> (end quote)

     We had nailed Pangborn as Kaiserdrvr within minutes after we
started looking into his old posts and came up with the same results
you did. Who does he think he's fooling with that act?