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Article #62How to End the Flame War - The Ken Pangborn Challenge
From: Nomen Nescio
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 13:50
Date: Sat, 11 May 2002 13:50
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The Ken Pangborn Challenge http://www.aboutkenpangborn.com
Please familarize yourself with the web pages at: http://
www.aboutkenpangborn.com. Ken Pangborn has made numerous efforts to
silence me and to have these web pages removed. His efforts over the
past two years have included:
Threats of civil/criminal legal action
Threats against me
Threats against my wife and children, including fraudulent
complaints to
Child Protective Services
Attacks against third parties, such as Wilbur Street and the
admin of my
ISP, in hopes of pressuring them into denouncing/censoring me
"Mailbombing" campaigns against my ISP's abuse desk
Campaigns of defamation against me
Creating illusion of "majority support" through posting from
alias and
"sock puppet" accounts
All of these efforts have failed miserably. However, I'm hereby
making another offer to Ken. My side of the agreement is that I will
remove these web pages, and will cease to point out Ken's lies and
unethical business practices in the newsgroups. Ken's part is
simple:
Ken must comply with the terms posted here. In brief, Ken must admit
that he has lied maliciously, with intent to defame, on hundreds of
occasions.
OR
Ken must provide proof for any one of his numerous claims, which are
listed on the web site.
Once Ken fulfills either of these objectives, I will remove these
pages and stop pointing out what a liar and con artist he is.
The terms of "proof":
Ken must provide incontrovertible evidence for any of his claims.
"Hearsay", such as "Several poeple wrote to me and said that tghey had
found that yopu were LYING" is not considered evidence. Saying "It has
already been posted" is not considered evidence. An example of
"incontrovertible evidence".
"Attached is a scanned document, in .jpg format. As you can
see in paragraph 3, the subject has been ordered not to come within 1000
miles of his wife and child. If you look further in the document,
you can see the signature of the judge, and at the top of the page
you can see the case number."
Such incontrovertible proof can be posted either by Ken Pangborn or by
anyone else who is able to obtain proof. This should not be difficult
for Ken to accomplish...after all, he has claimed that over 1900 other
people have had no difficulty obtaining this information. Ken also
claimed several people had obtained my military service records, which
would have information in them to support Ken's claims if they were
true.
Update on the Challenge
Nearly two YEARS after I made the Challenge, Ken Pangborn has posted
no proof of any of his claims. He has, however, made numerous excuses
for his inability to provide the documentation. The most recent excuse
was that he "required my permission" to post the proof. This is a
ridiculous excuse, as the information in question (assuming it existed)
would be public record. Nevertheless, I hereby give Ken Pangborn
"permission" to post any public record information which proves any of
his claims about me.
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