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In article <kwy9PB17w165w@zswamp.UUCP> geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh) writes:
>abrodnik@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca writes:
>
>> I completely agree that he has all right speak, but does he has right
>> to spread lies? Somehow I can't understand this.
>
>   I do, even though my aunt still has the brand on her arm.
>
>   I don't wish to go into the philosophical question of "what is truth", but 
>I do want to ask you: how do you know what is a lie and what is true?  You 
>don't know it by the words of a story itself; you examine the sides and 
>determine which is supported by facts. 
>
>   I honestly believe that surpressing an argument gives it credit; if, in 
>fact, the Holocaust happened, why are so many people trying to silence whose 
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>who say that it didn't?  My answer is that they suffer from pain, grief, self-
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 Simple. Because saying it didn't is invaraibly Anti-Semitism ( International
 Jewish cnspiracy, etc...). This is out and out hatred of the kind that has
 resulted in the murder  of millions.

 Why the hell should I have to defend the fact that it happened!! Why the hell
 should I have to yell and scream that there *** isn't *** an international
 Jewish conspiracy??? Should blacks have to prove that they were slaves?
                            
>righteousness, and anger... but those who follow Irving have their own answer: 
>because they are afraid that the truth, which contradicts their story, will 
>come out. 
>
>   I know that I am convinced the Holocaust happened, and I'd much rather that 
>those who can prove it would do so publicly rather than try to silence idiots 
>like the one whose appearance started this thread.  We shouldn't need to prove 
>it time and time again, but we do.  The cost of freedom is challenge, and the 
>cost of suppressing those who question and challenge is fierce, mindless 
>opposition. 
>
>   That pretty much sums it up: as long as our tactic is fierce, self-
>righteous, mindless suppression of the lies, then surely we should not be 
>surprised that the liars fight back with the same ferocity, self-
>righteousness... and mindlessness.  The enemy is no more than a mirrored image 
>of ourselves; let us therefore judge carefully how *we* react!
>
>Geoffrey Welsh, 7 Strath Humber Court, Islington, Ontario, M9A 4C8 Canada
>geoff@zswamp.uucp, [xenitec.on.ca|m2xenix.psg.com]!zswamp!geoff (416)258-8467
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