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Article #2The Rindos Affair @ UWA
From: Peter Caffin
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 00:00
Date: Sun, 17 Mar 1996 00:00
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I don't usually do forwarding of postings to multiple newsgroups.. That said, I think that this one deserves attention. Jim Duffield (staffy@omen.com.au) wrote re Parliamentary Speech by Mark Nevill on the UWA Archaeology/Rindos Affair.. : http://wings.buffalo.edu/~hjarvis/rindos.htm/ : : for a full display/discussion/analysis on the subject. : : Interesting academic politics. : : Western Australia : Parliamentary Debates : (HANSARD) : : Thirty-fourth Parliament : Third Session : 1995 : : [Thursday 14 December Pp. 13191-13203] : : HON MARK NEVILL (Mining and Pastoral): : : [...] : : I now take the opportunity available in debate on this Bill to : speak on other issues. In doing so, I address what I consider : to be a very serious situation at the University of Western : Australia. I have been involved in negotiations and discussion : for 12 to 18 months in this matter, and feel very little : progress has been made. The handling of the archaeology affair : at the University of Western Australia is unfortunately an : unfinished chapter in that institution's history. Deputy Vice : Chancellor Robson seems to think it has been completed and that : there is nothing more to say and nothing more will happen. He : is quite wrong. Anyone who examines the facts of the matter in : detail will soon realise that the handling of this issue by the : University of Western Australia has been disgraceful and, : probably, scandalous. : : The affair at the University of Western Australia involves the : exploitation of students in that department. There is also the : sexual exploitation of students. I believe the University of : Western Australia has abrogated its duty of care to the students : in that department, some of who have been forced to leave the : department and complete their studies overseas. The treatment : of Dr David Rindos has been appalling. It was the subject of a : very competent article by Kate Legge in The Weekend Australian : some weeks ago and an editorial in The Australian the following : Monday. The behaviour of Professor Sandra Bowdler and her group : of followers has been appalling also. : : I am disconcerted by the failure of the management of UWA to : address this problem properly. The subsequent denial of tenure : to Dr David Rindos should never have happened. Management : claims that the denial of tenure had nothing to do with the : problems in the archaeology department. It is clear that it has : everything to do with the problems in that department. I have : met the vice chancellor and the deputy vice chancellor on a : number of occasions. I have been involved in some discussions : to try to resolve this issue but each time I seem to meet with : disinterest, as though the matter is in the past and no more can : be done to resolve it. : : Hon Derrick Tomlinson: The problem is not disinterest. There is : real interest, not a lack of interest because of that interest. : : Hon MARK NEVILL: I can accept what the member is saying. The : politics of the University of Western Australia have been in top : gear for some time to avoid dealing with the crux of the : problem. Deputy Vice Chancellor Robson seems to have his head : in the sand as though no problem exists. He claims that all the : bad publicity that UWA can get from this issue has already been : served on it. I do not believe Professor Robson really : understands the depth of feeling both within UWA and the : university communities nationally and internationally. Dr : Rindos is a pre-eminent archaeologist. He has written some : seminal works in archaeology and is regarded as one of the most : original thinkers in archaeology in the world. Dr Rindos has : his strange facets, but that is often the case with academics. : : The University of western Australia has failed to comply with : the directives of the freedom of information commissioner, who : has made findings against UWA. The result of this affair is : that UWA and the university community in general have failed to : provide a credible and viable archaeology discipline to service : the needs of Western Australia. With issues such as Mabo and : economic development it is essential that we have a functioning : archaeology unit in Western Australia which has respect and : credibility and which turns out competent graduates. : : I recently visited some caves in the north Kimberley to examine : some Bradshaw figures which predate the Wandjinas, which the : current tribes have painted on the cave walls. The Bradshaw : figures relate to completely different people that were here : earlier. Very little research has been done on those figures. : I have a published volume of photographs of some of the figures : signed by the author, whose name escapes me. I met him at : Drysdale River station. I think his name is Graham Walsh. We : have a vast amount of archaeological information in this State, : the surface of which has barely scratched. We do not have : available, credible archaeology faculty in this State. I : believe UWA has badly let down Western Australia. : : My frustration with this issue has resulted in my writing a : letter to the Standing Committee on Government Agencies to try : to interest it in examining some of the matters associated with : this archaeology affair. Following my letter, I gave evidence to : the committee. The issue is in the committee's hands because it : is up to committee members to decided what to do. The matter : should be put in the public arena. I urge members of this House : to take an interest because it goes to the heart of how our : universities are run. Universities should be autonomous but at : the same time they should be accountable. Because the : University of Western Australia Act is a Statue of this House, : we have an obligation to ensure that the university is properly : managed and complies with any state legislative requirements. : : I will briefly run through some of the details of the matter. : At the end of my speech I will table a number of documents from : which I will quote. It is important that the documents are : placed into the public domain. Names have been obliterated from : some of the documents where they contain sensitive personal : information. In 1988 Dr David Rindos was vigorously recruited : to the University of Western Australia. He was offered a senior : position. Professor Sandra Bowdler was then the head of : department of archaeology. She praised him in a letter saying : that they very lucky to be able to get him." Dr Rindos arrived : about mid-June 1989. Four years later he was sacked by the very : University which had worked so hard to get him there. His : reputation, his good name, and his abilities have been attacked : public statements from the University. The question I ask is: : How could this occur? : : About six months after Dr Rindos arrived he became the acting : head of the archaeology department. As the acting head he was : bound by University regulations governing heads of departments, : by the policy on equity issues, and by a Statutes of this : Parliament -- the University of Western Australia Act. Those : requirements exist to ensure that the affairs of his department : were conducted properly and legally. They are Statutes and : regulations that no head of department can ignore. Under those : obligations, Dr Rindos was required to inform the University of : any possible irregularities. His dedication to properly : carrying out his role properly as acting head of archaeology was : to bring him nothing but trouble, and the eventual loss of his : position. : : As the acting head of the department Dr Rindos received numerous : complaints about unprofessional behaviour within the department : which had led to direct harm to students working within that : department. When Dr Rindos approached Professor Bowdler to : discuss the problems, he was rebuffed. This occurred on more : than one occasion. Later he attempted to invoke dispute : resolution procedures of the university. Professor Bowdler : publicly attacked him, claiming there was no dispute and that Dr : Rindos had to "learn to obey." Soon afterwards Dr Rindos found : himself shunned, harassed and victimized in the same way as the : students who had motivated his concern had been harassed and : victimised. : : Dr Rindos reported to the Head of Division, Professor Charles : Oxnard, a world-renowned scholar and an administrator of great : experience. I have met and spoken to Professor Oxnard. He is a : man who impresses me with his thoroughness and restrained : exposition of events as he saw them. He does not resort to : embellishment or exaggeration to get effect, but simply applies : an objective clinical analysis of the facts. He is an : impressive man. Under the structure which has existed since I : was at the University of Western Australia, different department : come under a division. He was not directly in the archaeology : department, but was responsible for a number of department in : each division. : : In 1990, Dr Rindos presented Professor Oxnard with a written : summary of problems. However, like so many documents connected : to the archaeology affair at UWA, this has disappeared from : university files. Professor Oxnard was already aware of the : problems in archaeology, and also believed that Bowdler was : carrying out a plan to get rid of Dr Rindos because he refused : to collaborate with this culture of corruption and intimidation : that was entrenched in the archaeology department. Professor : Oxnard directed Dr Rindos to report to the Equity Office about : the conditions in the department. The equity office used to be : an autonomous office. Since this affair blew up it has been : subsumed into the direct control of the vice chancellor. Dr : Rindos was privately warned by the Equity Officer, Ms Marie : Osman, about "close personal ties" between Professor Bowdler and : the university's Vice Chancellor, Professor Fay Gale. Professor : Oxnard also sent Rindos to see Deputy Vice-Chancellor, Professor : Robert Parfitt. I have spoken to Professor Parfitt about this : matter. He firmly supports the position of Dr David Rindos. : Professor Parfitt is now based in England. He is also a : well-known scholar and has extensive experience in university, : government and business administration. : : Professor Parfitt had also conducted some inquiries. He knew of : the problems, and confirmed that Dr Rindos had acted properly in : keeping with his duties as an acting head of department. He : believed Dr Rindos was acting in the best interests of the : University and its students by reporting the matters that were : drawn to his attention -- the matters that Professor Bowdler : refused to rectify. Professor Oxnard and Deputy vice chancellor : Parfitt took steps to rectify the problems problems that they : knew were occurring in the archaeology department. In early : 1991, Dr Rindos and several postgraduate students, all female, : were formally transferred to the geography department for : protection from Professor Bowdler and her followers. The move : was done with the full approval of the equity office and : university administrators, including Vice Chancellor Gale. Dr : Rindos' students were given extraordinary extensions to : scholarships and were even funded by the University to make up : for the poor academic conditions they had previously suffered. : By this action the the university confirmed that victimisation : existed and that it had interfered with the proper academic : progress of the students. The university bore the costs of the : move. All the reports that I can garner indicate that the move : of those student to the geography department was a total : success. : : [Sitting suspended from 12.30 to 2.00 pm] : : Hon MARK NEVILL: By the end of 1991, the responsible : administrators who had arranged this solution left their : positions at the University of Western Australia; that is, : Professor Moulden [sic=Oxnard] and Professor Parfitt. After they : had left the university Dr Rindos was to be removed from his : new-found safety in the geography department. In my opinion : this was the first step by the university to get rid of this : whistle-blower. : : The next event that occurred was the review of the archaeology : department . That was the major response of the university to : complaints about the archaeology department. Its task was to : carry out a formal review of conditions in the department. The : report of the committee is among the papers that I will seek to : table at the end of my speech, and was made public via a freedom : of information application after access was refused. : : The committee of review comprised Dr Neville Bruce and Professor : Moulden and it received information from more than 40 people : including students, staff and administrators. It also received : a dozen unsolicited written submissions. The committee received : a full report from Professor Bowdler, surveyed the students in : the department, and considered all of the documents that were : available on the university files. The review committee : concluded that overwhelming evidence existed of longstanding : problems in the archaeology department, problems that : constituted a threat to everything that a University should : stand for, and problems that needed correction or action taken : for the sake of the University itself. The Committee finished : its Report in December 1991.. : : The report made 12 recommendations, the first three stating -- : : RECOMMENDATION 1 : : that the Vice-Chancellor investigates, as a matter of priority, the : management practices in the Department. : : RECOMMENDATION 2 : : that the Vice-Chancellor resolves the division that have developed, : within the Department. : : RECOMMENDATION 3 : : that the Vice-Chancellor, in conjunction with the Equity Officer, : investigates purportedly inequitable behavior within the : Department. : : : Subsequent to that, none of these recommendations were properly : implemented nor fully carried out by the University. Given the : magnitude, and exceedingly sensitive nature of the problems that : were discovered, confidential memoranda were circulated with : that report by the committee. These memoranda contained greater : detail than was in the report. I will I quote at length from : one so you may appreciate the findings that were reported to the : administrators at the University of Western Australia. It : states -- : : In the course of our Academic Review certain matters were forced : upon our attention. These consisted of a number of serious : allegations. Given that we had only the normal resources available : to any Academic Review panel, it will be clear that we had neither : the skills nor the time nor the facilities to investigate these : allegations in depth, nor to evaluate each one in detail We : therefore emphasise that we cannot adjudicate upon the truth or : otherwise of the allegations, and it was not possible in terms of : either or schedule or our remit to attempt to prove or disprove : them. Nevertheless, the allegations were sufficiently grave, : sufficiently numerous, sufficiently consistent and potentially : sufficiently damaging to the ideals and the reputation of this : University that we could not as individuals ignore them and feel : that the University as an institution likewise cannot afford to : ignore them. : : The essence of what we are saying is this: We have formed the : impression that there are sufficient grounds for concern to suggest : that the allegations be investigated by a properly constituted body : of enquiry. In our view this is of immediate importance for at : least three reasons: firstly, if any one of them proved to be true : then urgent and vigorous action would, we feel, be necessary. : Secondly, they are of sufficiently wide currency to be in : themselves damaging to individuals and the institution. : : That memorandum was written by Professor Neville Bruce and Professor : Bernand Moulden. It goes on to state -- : : Most of the verbal and written allegations received related to : three issues. : : (1) It was alleged that a number of graduate and undergraduate : students had had sexual relations with a member of staff [they : refer here to Professor Sandra Bowdler] and that this had been : followed by favoured treatment of some (for example, in terms : of grants and jobs within the Department) and apparent : victimisation of others (including public ridicule and denial : of fair opportunity). : : (2) It was alleged that an environment had been fostered in which : cynicism and ridicule were used to promote certain theoretic : approaches and denigrate others, and that this stultified free : academic exchange, damaged academic reputations and integrity, : and ultimately severely retarded academic growth, particularly : of some promising postgraduate students. : : (3) Because the Director of the Centre of Prehistory has an : influential position on a number of relevant committees : outside the University, there was alleged to be a conflict of : interest regarding the University's involvement in commercial : archaeology. We were told that this could damage both the : university's reputation and its finances. : : : Part 2 of that document, which contains Professor Bruce's summary and : which I will table, states -- : : The academic environment in the Department, in terms of : equity,freedom of expression, impartiality, abuse of power and : general management, appeared to be appalling. : : The Review Committee called for a formal Committee of Inquiry. : Everyone who had appeared before the Committee was asked to : provide legally admissible letters of evidence. I will table : some of those letters as part of these documents, of course with : the names of the authors expunged. These letters prove : conditions in archaeology constituted a scandal without : precedent in the history of Australian Higher Education, and one : which was to be covered up rather than corrected. : : I will now go through some of the testimony given to that : review. The first area of testimony relates to sexual : involvements and discrimination. Grave concern was raised by : evidence indicating a long series of sexual involvements between : Prof Bowdler and her female students. Professor Bowdler had : secured grants and jobs for her girlfriends at the expense of : other students. Other women were victimised, at times for not : accepting her advances, and at other times for having ended the : relationship. : : I will now quote from some of the evidence of those students. : One female studying Prehistory 200 stated -- : : During a field trip, Professor Bowdler made sexual advances towards : me. Being immature and flattered I became involved in a sexual : relationship with her. Within one month I realised the predicament : I had placed myself in, but feared that if I left Professor Bowdler : she would somehow destroy my career in archaeology. I believe that : over the past three years she has attempted to do this. In 1986 I : was forced to leave my family and the University in order to get : away from Professor Bowdler." : : Another letter from a student states -- : : Professor Bowdler . .. appears to treat at least some students as : a potential sexual resource." : : Another PhD student wrote as follows -- : : The propriety of hiring Dr O'Connor at all could be questioned : since it was generally believed that she has been professor : Bowdler's lover in the past. It seemed to me there is still a : degree of attachment between them, despite Dr O'Connor's : marriage. : : Dr O'Connor married Peter Veth, who ran the Centre for : Prehistory in 1991. The evidence continues -- : : One of the most unpleasant aspects of Professor Bowdler's apparent : preference for hiring her own students and/or women with whom she : is thought to have had sexual relations was that one began to : question the underling motives for every appointment. : : Another student stated -- : : Professor Bowdler is a predator who preys on young female : students. It is an absolute disgrace that the University of : Western Australia employed such a person as well as allowing such : blatant power abuse to persist for nearly a decade. : : The majority of these statements have been made by young female : students. Another submission refers to a field trip to the : Fitzgerald National Park involving 13 volunteers, most of whom : were in their late teens or early twenties, and it states -- : : [Bowdler] and her lover, an archaeology student, had a very audible : argument that began late one evening and continued upon about 5:00 : am the next morning. There was much screaming and wailing, and as : we were all in nearby tents nobody got any sleep. Some people were : leaving for Perth that morning, an eight hour drive, and some : stayed on for further work. Either way, a good night's sleep was : paramount to everyone's well-being. I was alarmed that this : situation could arise, particularly when so many young people were : present. I expected the head of department to provide a more : responsible attitude. This incident made everyone feel : uncomfortable and left a bad taste. No apology was ever : proffered. : : That evidence was corroborated in other letters. Further : evidence was given by another student to the archaeology review : as follows -- : : During my Honours year Professor Bowdler became hostile towards me : and refused to speak to me unless absolutely necessary. This was a : major problem as she was my supervisor. The reasons for such : behaviour , according to my fellow students in the inner circle is : that I was not nice to C. Pocock, my ... fellow Honours student and : Professor Bowdler's lover. . . . I was not alone in being rejected : as of the other three honours graduates from 1988 only C Pocock was : successful in obtaining work as a consultant as well as obtaining : regular work as a part-time research assistant for Professor : Bowdler. : : The letter continues -- : : Professor Bowdler's professional conduct is often wanting on field : trips. One particular dramatic example that left all with an : unpleasant taste was on fieldwork one summer when 1st, 2nd and 3rd : years witnessed an ugly lover's dispute between Professor Sandra : Bowdler and C Pocock, using an innocent 1st year male student to : incite jealousy between the main antagonists. In short, C Pocock : played with the genitals of a male 1st year student. Professor : Bowdler and a few of the others seated away from the camp table : were aware of events occurring under the table. Much screaming, : yelling, crying eventuated and continued through the night. The : male student thought it was in his best interests not to return to : archaeology the following year. : : That letter corroborates a previous letter that I read to : members, in the event they think this sort of stuff is being : dreamt up by people. : : Hon Sam Piantadosi: Hands under the table. : : Hon Derrick Tomlinson: The problem is that that material has : been around the university for a long time and while they dealt : with Professor Bowdler it has not done anything to advance the : case of Dr Rindos. : : Hon MARK NEVILL: Exactly, and it is not clear whether the : university has dealt sufficiently with Professor Bowdler. The : department of archaeology has been dissolved. : : Hon Derrick Tomlinson: It never was a department, it was a : special sinecure established for her. : : Hon Sam Piantadosi: Hands under the table. : : Hon MARK NEVILL: That does not surprise me. She then went to : work in the anthropology department. However, I understand that : she works at the opposite end of the university from the : anthropology department. She is still on her original salary and : retains most, if not all, of the benefits that she has received : before this, and Dr Rindos has been most unceremoniously given : the flick to solve a problem for management. : : Hon Derrick Tomlinson: Even her right to call herself an : archaeologist came into question. : : Hon MARK NEVILL: That is true, and I am reluctant to jump to : conclusions. However, this same professor has a history of the : same behaviour at the University of New England, where she was : denied tenure, yet she came to the University of Western : Australia and had a mini department set up for her benefit. A : final quote is a letter to Dr Rindos from a student while Dr : Rindos was in the geography department in 1991. A copy of this : letter was sent to Professor Gale and to two other academics at : the university. It states -- : : I contacted Ms D---- because, like myself, she is an : ex-student-girlfriend of Professor Bowdler and warned me at length : about possible hostilities from Professor Bowdler. : : That is the sort of tyranny that was in place in this : institution. The review committee also indicated that male : students were discriminated against, and there were fewer male : students in that department. : : Hon Derrick Tomlinson: They did not go on any camps anyway. : : Hon MARK NEVILL: Probably not. The Vice Chancellor, Professor : Gale, in discussions with me quite flippantly dismissed as : consensual the succession of affairs with undergraduate students : indulged in by Professor Bowdler. I take a very different view. : I do not see any difference between the way doctors must treat : their patients and university professors should treat their : students. : : Hon Derrick Tomlinson: There have been celebrated cases of male : professor being discharged from universities for the very same : behaviour, though more of a heterosexual than a homosexual : nature. : : Hon MARK NEVILL: Hon Derrick Tomlinson raises an interesting : point. If this conduct had been indulged in by a male a the : University of WA, there would have been a different result. I : am shocked that the vice chancellor believes that : power-contaminated sexual relationships can be so casually : dismissed as consensual. : : Hon E. J. Charlton: Does the member think that she did not want : to do it personally, or do you think there is pressure in our : society that one should not look sideways or criticise anything : to do with these women in society, who seem to be able to do : what they like? : : Hon MARK NEVILL: I will not respond to that comment. However, : to condone such behaviour is to blame the student-victim. The : vice chancellor's attitude is unacceptable. She owes an : apology, at least to the parents of this State who have sent : their sons and daughters to her care at that university. She : owes an apology to all feminists who hold that gender is no : excuse for improper behaviour; and she owes an apology to the : many students who have been sexually or otherwise victimised at : the hands of a professor who is still in her employ. : : Hon Derrick Tomlinson interjected. : : Hon MARK NEVILL: Exactly. Hon Derrick Tomlinson has anticipated : the next part of my comments. I believe that Professor Bowdler : has been protected by the vice chancellor. : : Hon E. J. Charlton: Just by the vice chancellor? : : Hon MARK NEVILL: The vice chancellor has a fairly big hand in : how the university is run. Professor Bowdler has been : effectively protected by the vice chancellor, for reasons which : I do not know, but it is certainly against all of the proper : advice which the vice chancellor has received. : : The next area is the one to which Hon Derrick Tomlinson alluded; : that is academic freedom. In that department there was : certainly intellectual oppression. There was also a lack of due : process. The review committee found that Professor Bowdler and : her followers had instituted a reign of intellectual oppression, : encouraging and participating in the public ridicule of students : whose opinions were found politically, or otherwise, : unacceptable to them. I turn now to an attachment to to the : letter of Dr Neville Burce and Professor Bernard Moulden, headed : "Notes From an Analysis of a Survey of Archaeology Graduates." : They received 16 replies from a total of 24 gradates who had : completed a major in archaeology. The document states, under : the heading "Quotes"- : : Active hostility ie refusal to receive work and pass/fail markings : without comment is very had to bear and impossible to address when : such a power imbalance exits. : : There were however, more insidious and widespread problems relating : to the freedom of thought, fairness of marking the involvement of : undergraduates in intra-departmental politics. . . . : : Animosity reflected . . . to many students and staff pervaded whole : course and thus made survival difficult and tainted anything : positive about the course. : : . . . Worst things about the course were witnessing some people's : humiliation and ostracism in lectures, tutorials and field : trips." : : . .. this oppressive behaviour is clearly unprofessional and not : acceptable in the university community or indeed the wider social : community! : : At times lectures and courses were taking on the mantle of : propaganda where the ideas of others were not considered in an : analytical sense but ridiculed by defaming the individuals who : espoused any ideas incongruent to their own. : : These are some examples of intellectual oppression which was : occurring in that department; the lack of academic freedom which : is essential for any department or faculty to operate : effectively. There was also a disgraceful lack of due process : in the administrative dealings of the department. Decisions : relating to the allocation of academic and intellectual : resources, were made to serve non-academic ends, and the process : of administration became subverted to the ends of harassment and : abuse. A document which was sent to the review of archaeology : states -- : : Throughout the years of study I constantly witnessed other : students, staff, academics from UWA, Museum colleagues and others : being ridiculed, treated unfairly, or ostracised by Professor : Bowdler and her followers. : : A letter from Professor Sylvia Hallam, the former head of the : department, to the Vice Chancellor, Professor Gale, states -- : : Scorn for views with which [Professor Bowdler] did not agree, often : delivered in a scathing manner, could reduce a student to a : quivering wreck. Scorn is no substitute for reasoned presentation : of alternative views. : : Scorn for academic values and scorn for people outside of small : inner coterie have replaced love of learning and respect for : individuals." : : A document from another PhD student states -- : : Professor Bowdler appeared to show extreme favouritism and : prejudice in her treatment of not only departmental members but : also colleagues and others in the community at large. She : frequently expressed contempt for practically every other : archaeologist in Australia. She had nothing good to say about : Syliva Hallam or Charles Amsden, indeed she positively boasted to : me that she was going to 'get rid' of both of them. She also : boasted to me she had got herself appointed to every committee that : mattered in WA so that no Archaeology could be carried out of which : she did not approve. It seemed to me that Dr Veth copied her : attitude when he ran the Centre of Prehistory. In my hearing he : frequently expressed a desire to drive other consultancy firms out : of business. It is doubtful if anyone should ever has that much : power. Professor Bowdler's overt policy of criticism by character : assassination seemed to be copied by those departmental members who : wished to curry favour with her. : : The next quote from my notes reads -- : : : ---------------------------------355392331204-- -- .- Aus.Culture.Gothic FAQ- http://cleo.murdoch.edu.au/~ptcaffin/ausgoth.htm -. | GothCode v2.0 GoAu!3AS++Hu++SS++MA!3 TJt(FeP) B11/21Bk!^1@ cDBRw+ PNa(SaR) | | V++s M++p2wD ZGo(NrPu) C+2p1u A24(19) n+]--[OF b: H173 g+! mEa2-3 w++T | | r--]-4[EI D+~* h+PPe(SaR) s8 k+3BdDsFNRW RN SrNn N1293WPFnw LauWA+3*! HsM | `---- Goth Code Homepage- http://cleo.murdoch.edu.au/~ptcaffin/gothc.htm ----'
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fb361,14fcd0df7473fccb,start X-Google-Attributes: gidfb361,public X-Google-Thread: 12eeec,14fcd0df7473fccb,start X-Google-Attributes: gid12eeec,public X-Google-Thread: 10df0c,14fcd0df7473fccb,start X-Google-Attributes: gid10df0c,public From: ptcaffin@opera.iinet.net.au (Peter Caffin) Subject: The Rindos Affair @ UWA Date: 1996/03/17 Message-ID: <4if7v8$3et@opera.iinet.net.au> X-Deja-AN: 142979722 references: <4gk900$826@demeter.omen.com.au> organization: iiNet Technologies newsgroups: uwa.rumour,aus.politics,aus.students