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Re: Something I've never understood about virginia

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From: Allen Seth Dunn
Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:53
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"Beartooth" <karhunhammas@lserv.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 04:15:37 GMT, "pat"
> <bahn@tgv-rockets.com> wrote:
>
> >A lot of my friends, will not live in MD, because
> >they feel that the Gun laws are far too constricting,
> >yet they will gladly surrender all of their rights,
> >in order to have a nice looking house....
> >
> >Could someone please explain this to me?
>
> Here are two guesses. One 'North of Virginia' is no
> more real Virginia than DC is real USA -- and you notice he
> said only that Northern Virginia places had all these
> covenants. For that there's a historical reason that someone
> in real Virginia can doubtless tell us more about: the short
> version I got when I tried (yuk!) living in an Army base
> disguised as a country club (calling itself Reston) is that
> real -- i.e., legal -- towns have real power in Virginia,
> and resist sharing it with any newcomers. So places like
> Reston, and plenty more, aren't jurisdictions and have no
> governments of their own. They substitute a tissue of
> covenants, put in place by the developer before any subjects
> ever move in -- and do indeed extend even to things like
> what color you can paint your front door.

Very true. In fact, you can almost count the number of non-independent
cities in Northern Virginia (Arlington, Fairfax, Prince William, Eastern
Loudoun and Stafford Counties) on one hand. Clifton,  Dumfries, Quantico,
Herndon, and Leesburg. Note that Stafford and Arlington counties don't even
have any non-independent cities (Of course, Arlington only switched from an
independent city to a county in the 1990s). See below for what I mean by
non-independent cities.

>
> Two, there is a well-developed community of gun
> owners, especially on the Net. They get warned about such
> things : notice responses to posts on va.general and
> dc.general asking where to look for housing. There's always
> at least one saying "If you own a gun, stay out of the
> Unfree State."  If there were any such community of
> house-buyers or renters, things would happen fast and hard
> to some of these NoVa traps.
>
> --
> RR 'Beartooth' Neuswanger
> karhunhammas (at) lserv.com
> On the Internet, you can never tell
> who is a dog (supposing you care)
> -- but you can tell who has a mind.

Non-independent cities are towns with mayors or city managers, but the
schools (and probably other things) are run by the county in which they are
located. Independent Cities are totally seperate from the county in which
they are located in, and they completely control themselves (Manassas,
Manassas Park, and Alexandria are all examples of this in Northern
Virginia).

Allen Seth Dunn
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From: "Allen Seth Dunn" <asd_tjf@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: Something I've never understood about virginia
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