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Article #1254Re: Keep Elian from the brainwashing in Havana Re: Elian: Send The Boy Home!
From: Matthew T. Russotto
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 00:00
Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 00:00
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In article <3922ad27.5139494@news.ican.net>,
Ivan Gowch <gowch@SPAMMENOThotmail.com> wrote:
}On 16 May 2000 21:43:42 -0400, wb8foz@panix.com (David Lesher) wrote:
}
}==>Ivan Gowch <gowch@SPAMMENOThotmail.com> writes:
}==>>The issue of self-defence is hardly relevant here. The fact is that
}==>>it's stupid beyond belief -- suicidal, in fact -- to engage a heavily
}==>>armed force of government gunmen in a firefight.
}
}==>Without taking sides here, the above supposes you KNOW the heavily
}==>armed dudes, piling out of a cattle trailer spraying lead, clad in
}==>ninja suits, are in fact G-men.....
}
}As I'm sure you know, the BATF did not approach the compound "spraying
}lead."
That is disputed. What is undisputed is that ATF used grenades
("flash bangs", though if you're within a few feet you're dead
anyway) before any shooting broke out.
}And, last I heard, the Branch Davidians were not engaged in an armed
}struggle with a rival cult who could be expected to assault the Waco
}redoubt clad in kevlar and carrying automatic weapons.
This is always an interesting defense of the government... "Who ELSE
is going to attack you?"
--
Matthew T. Russotto russotto@pond.com
"Extremism in defense of liberty is no vice, and moderation in pursuit
of justice is no virtue."
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 115469,7f073e921835d714 X-Google-Attributes: gid115469,public X-Google-Thread: 101049,7f073e921835d714 X-Google-Attributes: gid101049,public X-Google-Thread: fb785,a8398a72aed6996e X-Google-Attributes: gidfb785,public From: russotto@wanda.vf.pond.com (Matthew T. Russotto) Subject: Re: Keep Elian from the brainwashing in Havana Re: Elian: Send The Boy Home! Date: 2000/05/17 Message-ID: <EBAU4.8249$LM4.587810@monger.newsread.com> X-Deja-AN: 624614776 References: <8c3hoh$23o8$1@newssvr04-int.news.prodigy.com> <3921572d.62530181@news.ican.net> <8fstge$iob$1@panix6.panix.com> <3922ad27.5139494@news.ican.net> X-Complaints-To: Abuse Role <abuse@pond.com>, We Care <abuse@newsread.com> X-Trace: monger.newsread.com 958584292 198.69.82.2 (Wed, 17 May 2000 13:24:52 EDT) Organization: Ghotinet NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 17 May 2000 13:24:52 EDT Newsgroups: va.general,dc.general,soc.culture.cuba