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"Ivan Gowch" <gowch@SPAMMENOThotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 12 May 2000 18:57:56 GMT, big_toe_1@my-deja.com wrote:
>
> ==>> Local authorities knew of the stories that were coming from the
> ==>> compound about statutory rape but had been unable to find a victim
who
> ==>> would be convincing in a court of law who would be willing to testify
> ==>> against the cult leader, David Koresh.
>
> ==>Consider the posibility that there were no victims, and that the
> ==>BATF/FBI may have started circulating those rumors themselves when the
> ==>first arrest went sour on them.
>
> Consider the certainty that David Koresh was a sociopathic manipulator
> of the religion-obsessed and weak-minded and, like so many other
> self-styled gurus, an exploiter and abuser of women and children.

I have no problem believing the first part.    However I have to see
evidence of the second part.


> Consider also the certainty that this evil nutbar had no more business
> being in the weapons business ("grenade shells??!!!") than Ray Charles
> has driving a bus.

I'll also grant you that.     However, there are proper channals.    First,
you revoke the licenses, which were still active and in place at the time of
the siege.    Once you revoke the licenses, then they are in violation of
federal law.   If they were actually conducting the raid to protect the
girls they feared were being molested, then you might expect that there
would be some mention of that on the warrant, and that the arrest would have
been conducted by the proper state authority.    At the time of the
beginning of the siege, Koresh was not in violation of any federal statutes.


>
> While you're at it, consider the certainty that while the initial BATF
> raid was ill-conceived and bungled beyond belief, and the subsequent
> FBI-led siege and final assault conducted with almost criminal
> stupidity, it's difficult to fault the government for fretting about a
> shadowy cult of religious fanatics -- headed by a child-beating goon
> proclaiming himself to be Jesus Christ incarnate -- who seemed to
> spend more time stockpiling armaments than reading scripture.

At the beginning of the siege, the federal government had no idea
that Koresh was a, "child beating goon", nor was that reflected in
the warrant.   And Koresh was fully licensed, but the federal government
(Bush administration), for every armament on the compound.    I
personally think that the government should have put a stop
to Koresh's stockpiling, however the way they did it was, or
should have been, inconceivable.


>
> Instead of weaving childish conspiracy theories and scanning the skies
> for fleets of black helicopters, consider that while Waco was a
> horrendous tragedy which left none of the antagonists looking good,
> the ultimate blame must lie with those who willingly consign their
> wills and judgment -- and the lives of their children -- to the
> ambition of some twisted motherfucker claiming to be a long-dead
> preacher.

There is no conspiracy theory, except in the subsequent cover-up.
They bungled an arrest.   Then continued to bungle the siege.   I
don't think that the government went in their with the intention
to kill everyone.   However, there is ample evidence that points
out quite clearly over the last year or so that there was a concerted
effort at cover-up, and evidence suppression/fabrication.    And,
as far as I know, even twisted mother-fuckers have the right
to due process of law in the USA.