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Article #509Re: red light camera question
From: Nathan Nagel
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 01:48
Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 01:48
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I didn't say I didn't like the idea, it's pretty good, as it gives a clear go/no go signal to any officer that's watching. the driver will know if he is/isn't going to get nailed and can act decisively. what I'm thinking is that depending on where the line is placed it's possible that someone in a shitty vehicle might be legally required to stop but be unable to do so (no, I don't own any vehicles that would fall in that category.) nate Paul R wrote: > > I don't think the type of vehicle would matter. > > If I understand the concept, the "dead line" would, itself, be advisory. > The law would still apply to crossing the stop line on the red. Seems to me > if I'm driving something heavy and hard to stop, I should be driving slowly, > and so the "dead line" would still work. Now if I'm driving something hard > to stop, and still insist on driving the speed limit, I deserve to get > burned. > > I *like* the "deadline" concept. Might be interesting to see if we get some > more comments on the idea. > > Paul R > > "Nathan Nagel" <njnagel@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message > news:3B1F72DC.49A0AE14@worldnet.att.net... > > John Gilmer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Problem is that if don't know how hard a stop's required of me. If I > knew > > > > the length of the yellow, I could excersize reasonable judgement. But > > > > without knowing, I'm stuck. Each light has a different requirement; > but > > > the > > > > driver can't tell what that requirement is. > > > > > > What they need is a "dead line." IOW a line on the pavement which if > > > before you when the light turns yellow you would be expected to stop at > the > > > stop line. If you are past the dead line when yellow comes up you > > > continue on through the interesection. The spacing between the two > lines > > > would be determined with the assumption that the driver is going EXACTLY > the > > > speed limit. > > > > In what vehicle though? :) > > > > nate
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