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Article #819Re: A picture perfect snapshot of DC's Dillemna!
From: Cole T. Kracke
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 00:00
Date: Mon, 02 Aug 1999 00:00
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Thanks for all the input. Someone mentioned the "Homesteading Act" What is this? Also, I was not aware that the $5000 home purchase tax credit was not guaranteed if the economy slows.. Is this correct?? wrob <wrob@erols.com> wrote in message news:37A4E461.BD054130@erols.com... > Yes, but I think blaming the people who currently live there for the situation > is like blaming black Africans for the Triangle Trade. It's the people who want > to move in who establish the price. And the people who want to move in intend > to do so only if they can be assured 5000 other people the same as them will make > the same decision. > > Need I go any farther than to point out the rank hypocrisy of Loose Lips et al. > over Diversite nightclub and Tenleytown (Deal) Elementray, etc.? > > -BER > > klaatu wrote: > > > wrob wrote: > > > > > > Sir, I share your concerns. But I am afraid that your situation is the > > > quentessential illustration of the decline in DC's middle class tax base. > > > > > > >I am a little confused about housing costs within DC. According to all the > > > >statistics, DC has had a loss of population the last 10 years wheras noVA > > > >has had a gain. Would this not bring housing costs down due to an > > > >over-supply? > > > > > > Simply put, the market demands of the wealthy are forcing the middle > > > class out of DC. DC spends much of its gov't effort keeping "desirable" > > > and "emerging" neighborhoods safe and clean, leaving very little to attract > > > middle income people to anywhere else in the city. > > > > Well, who th' heck would _want_ to live at, say, 5th and I SouthEast, given > > any other choices? Although actually the area is improving rapidly, and is > > expected to continue to do so. For ex-military, that general area might be > > fairly attractive. > > > > > > > > (To klaatu - > > > The Brookings Institution says this is a *good thing* - because after all, > > > who else would "take care" of those horrible-looking neighborhoods like > > > Shaw and Petworth that only the middle-class can afford to live in?) > > > > Actually, only the middle- and upper-classes can presently afford to _buy_ > > in those neighborhoods. Most of the homeowners in that neighborhood bought > > those houses with VA loans, generally quite some time ago; on average within > > a few years of WWII if memory serves. Most of those houses are long-since > > paid-off and the sales-prices are being jacked up by the kids who stand to > > make enough of a bundle off of selling to yuppies so as to move their entire > > extended family to nice houses in the 'burbs. So you can place the > > gentrification of, say, Columbia Heights/Petworth squarely at the feet of > > greedy ghettites. And it'll only get worse as the Columbia Heights station > > opens, and construction of the new Megaplex at 14th and Park NW gets towards > > final staging. > > > > BTW, I just drove through there last night, and actually, living right > > around 14th and Irving NW doesn't look too bad _now_ and I predict that in > > two or three years, the place will be in very high demand. They've taken > > most of the vacant lots, yanked absolutely all vegetation, and surrounded > > all of the vacant wasteland with razor fences. All of the people who were > > formerly lurking in there are, however, right out on the street instead. > > Still, even now there are worse places in DC that you could live, there's a > > Safeway right there, it's walking distance to Adams Morgan if you don't look > > affluent, it's a short drive to Rock Creek Park, etc etc. > > > > > > > > >Ultimately, I would prefer to live in Washington, DC vs Northern Virginia, > > > >but according to everything I mentioned, this does not economically > > > >feasible. Is this correct? or am in misinformed? > > > > > > If you buy a house, you might actually be able to find good bargains but only > > > in middle-ring neighborhoods such as Mt. Pleasant and Takoma Park. > > > On Capitol Hill, however, you will probably be able to find a good deal in a > > > slightly higher price range, with the ability to sell up. > > > > Market value probably won't increase at as rapid a rate as in the rest of > > DC; the place is pretty overpriced as-is. > > > > > > > > >I would greatly appreciate any input anyone may have, or any advice from > > > >people who have had to make a similar decision. > > > > > > I don't know enough about the condo market, but my recommendation is DC.. > > > There are real quality of life issues that you give up in Arlington, > > > unfortunately. > > > The homeowner tax credit, if it applies to condos (anyone??) should offset things > > > somewhat, the overall tax rates aren't that much different. Also, DC just > > > slashed its taxes. > > > > Takes effect over the next three years, and can be halted at any time if > > there's an economic downturn, very wise I think. > > > > Actually, the thing to do would be to pick up on some of the squatter's > > wrecks and do the Homesteading Act thing, live there for five years and > > return it to habitability and meeting code, and it's yours for a song. Of > > course, that's definitely not an adventure for the timid. > > > > > > > > -BER Takoma Park, MD > > > > -- > > "We look through a glass but darkly: > > What we see is more colored by our beliefs, > > than what we believe is colored by what we see." > > Be kind to your neighbors, even though they be transgenic chimerae. > > Whom thou'st vex'd waxeth wroth: Meow. http://www.clark.net/pub/klaatu/ >
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: 109d6f,992155520f4101c8 X-Google-Attributes: gid109d6f,public X-Google-Thread: 101049,992155520f4101c8 X-Google-Attributes: gid101049,public X-Google-Thread: fb785,992155520f4101c8 X-Google-Attributes: gidfb785,public From: "Cole T. Kracke" <cole@getmail.net> Subject: Re: A picture perfect snapshot of DC's Dillemna! Date: 1999/08/02 Message-ID: <7o4sar$2pva$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com> X-Deja-AN: 508071001 References: <7nvt3a$34gq$1@newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com> <37A3A6DD.293007F9@erols.com> <37A44F9B.50AECD9D@clark.net> <37A4E461.BD054130@erols.com> X-Priority: 3 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2314.1300 X-Complaints-To: abuse@prodigy.net X-Trace: newssvr03-int.news.prodigy.com 933622939 4000318 209.156.69.53 (2 Aug 1999 19:42:19 GMT) Organization: Prodigy Internet http://www.prodigy.com X-MSMail-Priority: Normal NNTP-Posting-Date: 2 Aug 1999 19:42:19 GMT Newsgroups: va.general,dc.housing,dc.general