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Started by ted
Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:38
Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: ted
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:38
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 20:38
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A University of Utah study claims that drivers who use a cell phone will be 'more impaired than drunken drivers with blood alcohol levels exceeding 0.08.' The study also says that use will turn a driver who is age 20 into age 70. Hands-free systems apparently don't help much either as they still require a driver to 'actively be part of a conversation.'
Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: phone-jockey
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 21:18
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 21:18
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ted wrote: > > A University of Utah study claims that drivers who use a cell phone will be > 'more impaired than drunken drivers with blood alcohol levels exceeding > 0.08.' The study also says that use will turn a driver who is age 20 into > age 70. Hands-free systems apparently don't help much either as they still > require a driver to 'actively be part of a conversation.' Just today I observed three vehicles swerving from lanes and all three drivers were using cell phones. It's getting ridiculous out there!
Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: Matthew Russotto
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 22:14
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 22:14
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In article <xSaMd.113844$Wo.3240@lakeread08>, ted <someone@somedomain.com.invalid> wrote: >A University of Utah study claims that drivers who use a cell phone will be >'more impaired than drunken drivers with blood alcohol levels exceeding >0.08.' The study also says that use will turn a driver who is age 20 into >age 70. Hands-free systems apparently don't help much either as they still >require a driver to 'actively be part of a conversation.' This says more about the 0.08 limit than it does about cell phones.
Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: The Blue
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 23:23
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 23:23
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090909070408090005000205 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit A University of Utah study claims that drivers who use a cell phone will be > <>'more impaired than drunken drivers with blood alcohol levels exceeding > 0.08.' The study also says that use will turn a driver who is age 20 into > age 70. Hands-free systems apparently don't help much either as they still > require a driver to 'actively be part of a conversation.' > > >Just today I observed three vehicles swerving from lanes >and all three drivers were using cell phones. It's getting >ridiculous out there! > > Ok so when are getting old people off the road; if i have to give up my cell to get nana and papa off the road i will. Old people are much more of a danger than cell phones. -- Sharing is caring Screw the RIAA --------------090909070408090005000205 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"> <html> <head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> <title></title> </head> <body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000"> A University of Utah study claims that drivers who use a cell phone will be<br> <blockquote cite="mid420143AB.EEFB25AD@verizun.net" type="cite"><>'more impaired than drunken drivers with blood alcohol levels exceeding<br> 0.08.' The study also says that use will turn a driver who is age 20 into<br> age 70. Hands-free systems apparently don't help much either as they still<br> require a driver to 'actively be part of a conversation.'<br> </> <pre wrap=""><!----> Just today I observed three vehicles swerving from lanes and all three drivers were using cell phones. It's getting ridiculous out there! </pre> </blockquote> Ok so when are getting old people off the road; if i have to give up my cell to get nana and papa off the road i will. Old people are much more of a danger than cell phones.<br> <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- Sharing is caring Screw the RIAA</pre> </body> </html> --------------090909070408090005000205--
Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: Daniel J. Stern
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 23:32
Date: Wed, 02 Feb 2005 23:32
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, The Blue wrote: > Old people are much more of a danger than cell phones. Cite?
Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: The Blue
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 00:22
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 00:22
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Daniel J. Stern wrote:
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>>Old people are much more of a danger than cell phones.
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Well the study said cell phones made young driver equivalent of a
senior behind the wheel. That is only while they are on the phone. The
senior is a senior from the start of the trip till finish. So the
senior is a less capable drive for a longer period of time. I have no
problem using my cell phone when I drive. However i use my hand device
and i pay attention to the roads. I think food is much more of
distraction than a cell phone.
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Daniel J. Stern wrote:<br>
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<b>Well the study said cell phones made young driver equivalent of a
senior behind the wheel. That is only while they are on the phone. The
senior is a senior from the start of the trip till finish. So the
senior is a less capable drive for a longer period of time. I have no
problem using my cell phone when I drive. However i use my hand device
and i pay attention to the roads. I think food is much more of
distraction than a cell phone.</b><br>
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Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: Notan
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 00:27
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 00:27
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The Blue wrote: > > Well the study said cell phones made young driver equivalent of a > senior behind the wheel. That is only while they are on the phone. The > senior is a senior from the start of the trip till finish. So the > senior is a less capable drive for a longer period of time. I have no > problem using my cell phone when I drive. However i use my hand device > and i pay attention to the roads. I think food is much more of > distraction than a cell phone. Don't kid yourself. *None of us* are as good as we think we are! Notan
Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: Arif Khokar
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 00:46
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 00:46
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The Blue wrote: <snip> Please change the settings in your newsreader so that it will only post plain text to usenet.
Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: Daniel J. Stern
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:08
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:08
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Notan wrote: > Don't kid yourself. *None of us* are as good as we think we are! None of us _is_ as good as we think we are. *g*
Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: Daniel J. Stern
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:14
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:14
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, The Blue wrote: > >>Old people are much more of a danger than cell phones. > >Cite? > Well the study said cell phones made young driver equivalent of a > senior behind the wheel. That is only while they are on the phone. The > senior is a senior from the start of the trip till finish. Bzzzt! Reading conclusions into the study that aren't there! This is not applicable support for your assertion, so I'll repeat my request that you cite the source of your assertion. > I have no > problem using my cell phone when I drive. You don't *think* that you do, but in fact, yes, you do. It's quantifiable. > I think food is much more of distraction than a cell phone. Fortunately for everyone, your guesses and opinions aren't science.
Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: Notan
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:19
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 01:19
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"Daniel J. Stern" wrote: > > On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Notan wrote: > > > Don't kid yourself. *None of us* are as good as we think we are! > > None of us _is_ as good as we think we are. > > *g* Damn syntax checker! <g> Notan
Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: Daniel J. Stern
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 02:45
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 02:45
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Notan wrote: > > > Don't kid yourself. *None of us* are as good as we think we are! > > None of us _is_ as good as we think we are. *g* > Damn syntax checker! <g> Damn _grammar_ checker. <gd&r> DS
Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: Sam O'Nella
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 05:25
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 05:25
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phone-jockey wrote: > ted wrote: >> >> A University of Utah study claims that drivers who use a cell phone >> will be 'more impaired than drunken drivers with blood alcohol >> levels exceeding >> 0.08.' The study also says that use will turn a driver who is age 20 >> into age 70. Hands-free systems apparently don't help much either as >> they still require a driver to 'actively be part of a conversation.' > > Just today I observed three vehicles swerving from lanes > and all three drivers were using cell phones. It's getting > ridiculous out there! What sucks is when they call you from the car and say "AH LOVE YOU, MAN!"
Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: Sam O'Nella
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 05:26
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 05:26
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>>>> Don't kid yourself. *None of us* are as good as we think we are! > >>> None of us _is_ as good as we think we are. *g* > >> Damn syntax checker! <g> > > Damn _grammar_ checker. Damn _grandmother_ checker.
Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: Xeton2001IsAMoron.20.dwpj65
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 09:03
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 09:03
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I wonder if the MADD brass will stop using their cell phones while driving?
Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: Harry K
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 14:53
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 14:53
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Daniel J. Stern wrote: > On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, Arif Khokar wrote: > > > The problem stems from Google Groups beta's interface. > > Naw, I don't buy it. It's the driver's job to know how to use all the > controls and read all the displays. Yeah, that is the problem and I have been trying to break myself of the habit of using the 'quick reply' thingy. Why it is even there I can't imagine. I am doing better, I usually catch myself now before sending and redo it. Harry K
Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: The Blue
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 17:31
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 17:31
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Daniel J. Stern wrote:
>On Wed, 2 Feb 2005, The Blue wrote:
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This is from the study in question I have other sources I assumed this
was common knowledge that senior are a hazard on the road. Strayer said
they found that when 18- to-25-year-olds were placed in a driving
simulator and talked on a cellular phone, they reacted to brake lights
from a car in front of them as slowly as 65- to 74-year-olds who<> were
not using a cell phone.
http://www.e-z.net/~ts/reaction.htm
http://www.visualexpert.com/Resources/olderdrivers.html
http://www.usroads.com/journals/rej/9708/re970804.htm
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Daniel J. Stern wrote:<br>
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This is from the study in question I have other sources I assumed this
was common knowledge that senior are a hazard on the road. Strayer said
they found that when 18- to-25-year-olds were placed in a driving
simulator and talked on a cellular phone, they reacted to brake lights
from a car in front of them as slowly as 65- to 74-year-olds who<> were
not using a cell phone.</>
<pre class="moz-signature" cols="72"><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.e-z.net/~ts/reaction.htm">http://www.e-z.net/~ts/reaction.htm</a>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.usroads.com/journals/rej/9708/re970804.htm">http://www.usroads.com/journals/rej/9708/re970804.htm</a>
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Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: (Pete Cresswell)
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 19:08
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 19:08
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Per phone-jockey: >Just today I observed three vehicles swerving from lanes >and all three drivers were using cell phones. It's getting >ridiculous out there! Some weeks ago, my dentist said that some guy almost got him - who appeared to be doing email on a BlackBerry. -- PeteCresswell
Re: Cellphone Drivers Equivalent to Drunks
Author: Notan
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 19:11
Date: Thu, 03 Feb 2005 19:11
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"(Pete Cresswell)" wrote: > > Per phone-jockey: > >Just today I observed three vehicles swerving from lanes > >and all three drivers were using cell phones. It's getting > >ridiculous out there! > > Some weeks ago, my dentist said that some guy almost got him - who appeared to > be doing email on a BlackBerry. Pretty good concentration to determine "email on a Blackberry" while traveling in a moving vehicle. Maybe your dentist should've had his eyes on the road! Notan
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