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I had said in an earlier message:

>Currently, MX (v3.1C) places the VMS personal name in the From: header by
>enclosing the name in quotes and following that with the Internet-style address
>enclosed in "angle brackets."

and Carl Lydick pointed out, in private mail:

>No, it doesn't.  It doesn't put the personal name in quotes.

He then suggested:

>Perhaps you've expliticly included quotes in your personal name?

and in another message:

>Why not simply telnet to port 25 on the machine with the mailer you want to
>test?

I thought this was a very good idea, so I followed his advice and this is what
I've found:

VMS Mail (or perhaps MX_MAILSHR) is supplying the quoted text, but only when the
personal name contains a special character.  We discovered this situation
because an SMTP message gatewayed to Microsoft Mail (Macintosh) would have the
reply address be the sender's personal name.  Now, my personal name usually
appears in the From: header enclosed in quotes, so I thought the gateway
coouldn't handle quoted text in the From: header, hence my original posting.
Also, the people on the MSMAIL side of things said that the messages were never
replyable, but I demonstrated that on occasion the message was replyable.  Using
TELNET, I found that if the personal name is not enclosed or is enclosed in
parentheses, MSMAIL used the personal name for the reply address (obviously a
gateway problem), but if the personal name was enclosed in quotes, like mine
usually is, MSMAIL used the internet addressing for the reply, which was
correct.

I'd like to thank Carl for his hint.

Now, I'm guessing that it's MX_MAILSHR (or MX_MAILSHRP) adding the quotes to the
From: header when there are special characters and leaving them off when there
aren't.  (I sent VMS Mail both ways - using a personal name with special
characters and using one without.  Quotes were automatically added in the first
case and not in the second.)  Could someone with MX source verify this?  If this
is the case, is there a way to get MX to always add the quotes?

If it's really VMS Mail that's deciding when to add quotes, I'll take any hints
on how to change its behavior instead.

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 Brian Tillman               | Internet: tillman@swdev.si.com
 Smiths Industries, Inc.     |           tillman_brian@si.com
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