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Re: Record type after file transfer

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From: Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 11:43
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In article <1992Nov5.172743.23810@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE>, Torge.Schmidt@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Torge Schmidt) writes:
> The most curious thing is that VMS _is_ able to run an
> .EXE-file, which is of 
> 	Record format:      Stream_LF
> 	Record attributes:  Carriage return carriage control
> But I won't rely on this, who knows, how the next versions of
> VMS will handle this. Furthermore, other programs and utilities
> presumably can't handle converted files (RALLY? RDB?).

  Yup. The image activator uses block I/O. It will even load "undefined" file
types. However, that's only the image activator. Things like PATCH will likely
be upset by funny file formats.

> My questions:
> 1. How do I get ZMODEM (or Kermit, if this is, what you can
>    answer) to _not_ converting the file type? Is such a version
>    available somewhere on the InterNet? 

  In Bliss Kermit-32, you do SET FILE TYPE FIXED and SET FILE BLOCKSIZE 32256.
In C-Kermit, you either use FILE TYPE LABELED (which preserves all attributes)
or SET FILE RECORD-LENGTH 32256.

  You can get both Kermit versions from watsun.cc.columbia.edu. The Bliss one
is in kermit/b/vms*.*. The C-Kermit one is in kermit/sw/ck*.*. Note that C-
Kermit has a number of large performance improvements over Bliss Kermit-32. As
soon as the public beta test period ends, C-Kermit will replace Bliss Kermit-32
as the "default" VMS Kermit. The Bliss version is not actively supported at
this time.

> 2. How do I restore the record type of the
>    received file? CREATE/FDL doesn't work, due to a RMS-error
>    (something about to big record or buffer size)

  I suggest you get Joe Meadow's FILE utility, available from ftp.spc.edu and
other fine archive sites 8-).

> Please email answers directly to me, as I am reading this group
> only frequently.

  I'm posting as well in case the answers are of interest to other folks.

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381
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From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc,vmsnet.networks.misc
Subject: Re: Record type after file transfer
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Date: 6 Nov 92 11:43:03 GMT
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