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Re: VMS listings kit (was Re: writing lexical functions)

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From: jeh
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 06:30
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In article <1992Dec14.085555.5895@ais.com>, bruce@ais.com (Bruce C. Wright)
 writes:
>> #Can anyone out there tell me if it is possible to write my own lexical
>> #functions, and how?
>> [...]
>                 4. Get a copy of the source to DCL and hack it in
> 		   yourself.
> 
> This is an EXPEN$IVE solution and DEC keeps changing the exact
> requirements for doing this legally.

I must protest.  Listings for nearly all of VMS, plus all of the utilities that
ship with it, can be purchased on CD-ROM for about $2200, and the legal
requirements (you need to sign a source license agreement) haven't changed
since this offering was introduced many years ago.  

No, you don't get compilable source for this price.  But you certainly get 
enough information to help you add things to the system. 

Oh, and in case you were wondering, you can get the VMS-Alpha AXP listings kit
for about the same price and the same legal procedures.  This is an incredible
bargain for anyone who wants to port code, particularly privileged stuff like
device drivers, to Alpha!  You can order it today.  It exists; I've seen it --
Two copies were on hand for perusal at the Fall DECUS Symposium last week. 

The hardest part about obtaining the VMS listings kit (VAX or Alpha), in fact,
is often in getting your DEC salescritter to admit that they sell such a thing
and to dig up the part number... years after its introduction, many salesfolks
still don't believe that the kit exists.  It may be salesfolks' misinformation
that led you to believe that the legal requirements keep changing.  I expect
similar troubles in trying to order the VMS-AXP listings.  Yet another case
where DEC is doing the right thing but has trouble marketing it.  

	--- Jamie Hanrahan, Kernel Mode Consulting, San Diego CA
drivers, internals, networks, applications, and training for VMS and Windows-NT
uucp 'g' protocol guru and release coordinator, VMSnet (DECUS uucp) W.G., and 
Chair, Programming and Internals Working Group, U.S. DECUS VMS Systems SIG 
Internet:  jeh@cmkrnl.com, hanrahan@eisner.decus.org, or jeh@crash.cts.com
Uucp:  ...{crash,eisner,uunet}!cmkrnl!jeh
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From: jeh@cmkrnl.com
Newsgroups: vmsnet.misc
Subject: Re: VMS listings kit (was Re: writing lexical functions)
Message-ID: <1992Dec14.223000.964@cmkrnl.com>
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:30:00 PST
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