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Re: ISVNET newsgroups are available...

#79
From: Terry Poot
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:59
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In article <19AUG199202303735@spades.aces.com>, gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud
Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546) writes:
>Find a local university which is willing to let you hook up to their
>network.  You'll find that the cost is generally in the same range as 
>the phone line you'd tie up for SLIP over a year.  

Nope. There's only one local university, and to connect to them, I have to join
MIDnet for $xx,xxxx per year (somewhere around 50k, I think). That doesn't
include the phone line, just the right to connect. That's a condition of their
own connection to MIDnet. I suspect most universities connected to NSFnet
regional networks have similar restrictions.

>Alternately you could
>get higher bandwidths (56kbps) at <$1K/month from various providers including
>Alternet and US Sprint.

Try 5-10K/month, if you don't happen to live near a POP for one of those
providers, since you have to get a leased line to the nearest POP.

>#Also, SLIP doesn't provide for periodic calling and shutting down the
>#line when all the traffic is done.
>
>	I call this a feature.  

Me too, unless I have to pay line charges, but it drives the price up higher
than a uucp link to the same site.

>Any time I ping, a packet goes through.
>	I've heard of people who set up unix cslip to autodial on the
>	first packet if the link is down.

How do they get it to hang up when the line's been idle for a while? And does
that first packet actually get through, considering the timeouts while the
phone's being dialed? Maybe you can make it work, but it's well beyond what SLIP
was designed to do.

--tp
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Subject: Re: ISVNET newsgroups are available...
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From: tp@mccall.com (Terry Poot)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:59:17 EDT
Reply-To: tp@mccall.com (Terry Poot)
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